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Christ, seriously? Do have to stay up all night and argue this... Do people really believe that 'pansy' is not still a slur? Is 'faggot' not a slur? Really? C

Christ, seriously? Do have to stay up all night and argue this... Do people really believe that 'pansy' is not still a slur? Is 'faggot' not a slur? Really? Come on... Christ.. I started with an observation and now I am wrapped up in this crap. And yes... i think stupid is less offensive to many than pansy. are you as, what i assume is in an intelligent person, arguing that you think pansy is consider a slur by fewer people than stupid? really? seriously?

sophacles 16y ago
I think your reply here is disingenuous as you still are refusing to state what your real, honest, actual problem is.. that it is a slur, or the specific slur. Quit redirecting to you're bullshit fake bafflement and just answer a simple question about what your objection is.
- spooneybarger 16y ago
  My simple statement is the beginning what... I find it assuming what slurs people find acceptable and what they dont. I'm not familiar with anyone who isn't aware of pansy not being a slur. It is just some people decide... 'o i didnt mean it that way'. There are many slurs you can get away with say 'i didnt mean it that way' and most people will look the other way and many that people won't. If you talk race, you probably can't get away with saying 'i didnt mean it that way' If you talk gender, well that is harder to classify, it is more of a middle ground. If you talk sexuality, well... i think there most of it is still fertile ground for slurs, intended or not.
Jach 16y ago
> are you as, what i assume is in an intelligent person, arguing that you think pansy is consider a slur by fewer people than stupid? How did you come to that? I have no idea of the numbers. Though I'd probably counter-intuitively vote for stupid anyway since it seems to be in more use and I rarely see 'pansy' on forums such as youtube where insulting remarks happen all the time. I wouldn't put a high wager on my vote though. Anyway, consider a short parable. "So MC Bob, can you explain to us why you write such sexist lines such as 'All you pussies get out of my way, I'm pushing all you down 'cause you're gay'?" "What?" "Pussy. Is there something wrong with a vagina, or having one?" "...Hell no, pussies are great, that's why my last album was exclusively about getting good pussy!" "So you're not being demeaning to women?" "No! I suppose 'pussy' is like 'gay' in that sentence, they're both meant to be taken as insults but are by themselves very meaningless. When I was growing up in Utah, everyone would gasp if you even quoted a swearword, let alone used one in an insulting fashion! It was the taboo of the word that made them offensive rather than any meaning behind the word, and it's like that in many rap songs today. Eminem's not a homophobe, there's just a lot of things that rhyme with faggot or gay or homo."

sophacles 16y ago

I think your reply here is disingenuous as you still are refusing to state what your real, honest, actual problem is.. that it is a slur, or the specific slur. Quit redirecting to you're bullshit fake bafflement and just answer a simple question about what your objection is.

spooneybarger 16y ago
My simple statement is the beginning what... I find it assuming what slurs people find acceptable and what they dont. I'm not familiar with anyone who isn't aware of pansy not being a slur. It is just some people decide... 'o i didnt mean it that way'. There are many slurs you can get away with say 'i didnt mean it that way' and most people will look the other way and many that people won't. If you talk race, you probably can't get away with saying 'i didnt mean it that way' If you talk gender, well that is harder to classify, it is more of a middle ground. If you talk sexuality, well... i think there most of it is still fertile ground for slurs, intended or not.

Jach 16y ago

> are you as, what i assume is in an intelligent person, arguing that you think pansy is consider a slur by fewer people than stupid? How did you come to that? I have no idea of the numbers. Though I'd probably counter-intuitively vote for stupid anyway since it seems to be in more use and I rarely see 'pansy' on forums such as youtube where insulting remarks happen all the time. I wouldn't put a high wager on my vote though. Anyway, consider a short parable. "So MC Bob, can you explain to us why you write such sexist lines such as 'All you pussies get out of my way, I'm pushing all you down 'cause you're gay'?" "What?" "Pussy. Is there something wrong with a vagina, or having one?" "...Hell no, pussies are great, that's why my last album was exclusively about getting good pussy!" "So you're not being demeaning to women?" "No! I suppose 'pussy' is like 'gay' in that sentence, they're both meant to be taken as insults but are by themselves very meaningless. When I was growing up in Utah, everyone would gasp if you even quoted a swearword, let alone used one in an insulting fashion! It was the taboo of the word that made them offensive rather than any meaning behind the word, and it's like that in many rap songs today. Eminem's not a homophobe, there's just a lot of things that rhyme with faggot or gay or homo."