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Note many of these are just forced by policies to "make" EV if they want to continue making traditional vehicles, others are just making money off of policies a

Note many of these are just forced by policies to "make" EV if they want to continue making traditional vehicles, others are just making money off of policies and subsidies, buyers are mostly forced to buy it due to license plate quotas. EVs' reputation in China is going downhill ever faster, it's been called "electric daddy". Urban area is extremely dense so it's lucky to find a place to charge where it hasn't been ocupied, many place refuse to turn on their chargers. Hope western media can stop praising China's EV industry mindlessly, it's there coz of artificial markets. Just like farmers are banned to use coal, but they are never gonna be able to afford the natural gas heaters required to install.

jdietrich 7y ago
What's the opposite of "五毛党"?
tourdownunder 7y ago
>> many place refuse to turn on their chargers. They just needs the right incentives to be plugged in like being rewarded for being able to provide frequency response while plugged in. The following link supports my argument https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40565-015-0124-0 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40565-015-0124-0
rumanator 7y ago
> Urban area is extremely dense so it's lucky to find a place to charge where it hasn't been ocupied, many place refuse to turn on chargers. Plugging a car to the power grid is just one of many solutions to the problem of powering a car. There are other ways to solve the same problem, which in totalitarian regimes with a centrally planned economy are easier to implement, such as swapping pre-charged batteries.
- 693471 7y ago
  Not only are you overlooking the massive size and weight of these batteries which would make it infeasible to build a battery swapping station in a smaller footprint than the space required for charging stalls but you have not addressed what to do about the cooling of the batteries. The Model 3 has coolant lines going through the battery itself so each battery swap would also require dumping and refilling fluid. Nonsense.

jdietrich 7y ago

What's the opposite of "五毛党"?

tourdownunder 7y ago

>> many place refuse to turn on their chargers. They just needs the right incentives to be plugged in like being rewarded for being able to provide frequency response while plugged in. The following link supports my argument https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40565-015-0124-0 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40565-015-0124-0

rumanator 7y ago

> Urban area is extremely dense so it's lucky to find a place to charge where it hasn't been ocupied, many place refuse to turn on chargers. Plugging a car to the power grid is just one of many solutions to the problem of powering a car. There are other ways to solve the same problem, which in totalitarian regimes with a centrally planned economy are easier to implement, such as swapping pre-charged batteries.

693471 7y ago
Not only are you overlooking the massive size and weight of these batteries which would make it infeasible to build a battery swapping station in a smaller footprint than the space required for charging stalls but you have not addressed what to do about the cooling of the batteries. The Model 3 has coolant lines going through the battery itself so each battery swap would also require dumping and refilling fluid. Nonsense.