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> I don't have a link, but you can trust me when I can say that I've had discussion with white-nationalists on Youtube. As usual, when challenged to back up th

> I don't have a link, but you can trust me when I can say that I've had discussion with white-nationalists on Youtube. As usual, when challenged to back up the claim that YouTube hosts white nationalism and child pornographers the commenter fails to do so. At best you managed to show that some videos of kids had creepy comments, which YouTube promptly banned after it was brought to light. I recall this phenomenon, and YouTube's response was swift and decisive. So much so that many creators actually complained that YouTube was being too aggressive.

dragontamer 7y ago
I NEVER claimed that Youtube "hosts" white nationalism. I said their moderation is subpar. Specifically, that white-nationalism COMMENTS are a problem.
- manfredo 7y ago
  > How do you solve the problem of white-nationalists recruiting on this webpage? Well, you ban hate-speech. > The problem is that White-Nationalists can simply... go to Facebook... or Youtube... as recruitment grounds. The big websites aren't cooperating yet. This needs to be a systemic top-down effort, unified across the major websites. Sure sounds like you're saying YouTube and Facebook host white nationalist content to me. Saying that YouTube and Facebook are lax in kicking off white nationalists is still saying that they let white nationalists on their site. It's only after I challenged you to back up this claim that you pivoted to talking about comments.
  - dragontamer 7y ago
    > Sure sounds like you're saying YouTube and Facebook host white nationalist content to me. That's not my intent. You can take at my word, or leave it. Your choice. There's plenty of other issues we can talk about without getting wrapped up about this particular point. Youtube _comments_ are poorly moderated. Do you agree or disagree?
    - manfredo 7y ago
      Maybe. Show me comments where people are recruiting for white nationalist organizations, if it really is as bad as you claim.
      - dragontamer 7y ago
        As I stated before, its been a while since I've seen white-nationalists. But I have seen it for sure. But about 5 minutes of search gave me this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e811xgRlZYE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e811xgRlZYE Iranian propaganda against "Zionists" (keyword: anti-semite language) who made 9/11 an inside job. RT Today still has a prominient mouthpiece on Youtube, not white-nationalist, but conspiracy driven nuts in any case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyA-sCE18hY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyA-sCE18hY Play around on that side of Youtube long enough, and the white-nationalists eventually show up. Last time I went down hunting for white-nationalists, they were somewhere around that area. --------- EDIT: Here's a doozy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVE12id-X4Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVE12id-X4Y Plenty of pro-Great Replacement ideas here. Yeah, I'm finding more and more stuff the more I look. As I stated before: the more you fill you search history with this stuff, the easier it gets to find. "Normal" people aren't able to enter the black hole, because after seeing one video, they click on something else. Conspiracy-nuts continue to click into the hole, filling up their history and getting drawn in more and more. Its just how Youtube's algorithms work. The more you click on these things, the more Youtube serves you this kind of content. That's enough conspiracy / white national hunting for me though. I think I've proven my point now and don't feel like dirtying my history anymore. > It's funny how these basic nationalist thoughts are now "far right-wing" In the past these were beliefs that most of the population understood. You dont let your own nation be ethnically and culturally replaced by outsiders. > I love how Jewtube welds the Wikipedia article to the Great Replacement and tries to dismiss it as a "nationalist right wing conspiracy theory". > Europe taxes it’s citizens to import Africa Whilst Africa kicks out europeans Found em. Took about 10 minutes but I'm pretty sure I found what you were looking for. Do you believe me now? So now I've shown you what's out there. Now I ask you again: what should we do about this? Should we just... let these people continue to collaborate on their mission of hate on Youtube? Or should we like, do something about it before they decide to shoot someone else (El Paso / Christchurch)

dragontamer 7y ago

I NEVER claimed that Youtube "hosts" white nationalism. I said their moderation is subpar. Specifically, that white-nationalism COMMENTS are a problem.

manfredo 7y ago
> How do you solve the problem of white-nationalists recruiting on this webpage? Well, you ban hate-speech. > The problem is that White-Nationalists can simply... go to Facebook... or Youtube... as recruitment grounds. The big websites aren't cooperating yet. This needs to be a systemic top-down effort, unified across the major websites. Sure sounds like you're saying YouTube and Facebook host white nationalist content to me. Saying that YouTube and Facebook are lax in kicking off white nationalists is still saying that they let white nationalists on their site. It's only after I challenged you to back up this claim that you pivoted to talking about comments.
- dragontamer 7y ago
  > Sure sounds like you're saying YouTube and Facebook host white nationalist content to me. That's not my intent. You can take at my word, or leave it. Your choice. There's plenty of other issues we can talk about without getting wrapped up about this particular point. Youtube _comments_ are poorly moderated. Do you agree or disagree?
  - manfredo 7y ago
    Maybe. Show me comments where people are recruiting for white nationalist organizations, if it really is as bad as you claim.
    - dragontamer 7y ago
      As I stated before, its been a while since I've seen white-nationalists. But I have seen it for sure. But about 5 minutes of search gave me this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e811xgRlZYE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e811xgRlZYE Iranian propaganda against "Zionists" (keyword: anti-semite language) who made 9/11 an inside job. RT Today still has a prominient mouthpiece on Youtube, not white-nationalist, but conspiracy driven nuts in any case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyA-sCE18hY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyA-sCE18hY Play around on that side of Youtube long enough, and the white-nationalists eventually show up. Last time I went down hunting for white-nationalists, they were somewhere around that area. --------- EDIT: Here's a doozy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVE12id-X4Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVE12id-X4Y Plenty of pro-Great Replacement ideas here. Yeah, I'm finding more and more stuff the more I look. As I stated before: the more you fill you search history with this stuff, the easier it gets to find. "Normal" people aren't able to enter the black hole, because after seeing one video, they click on something else. Conspiracy-nuts continue to click into the hole, filling up their history and getting drawn in more and more. Its just how Youtube's algorithms work. The more you click on these things, the more Youtube serves you this kind of content. That's enough conspiracy / white national hunting for me though. I think I've proven my point now and don't feel like dirtying my history anymore. > It's funny how these basic nationalist thoughts are now "far right-wing" In the past these were beliefs that most of the population understood. You dont let your own nation be ethnically and culturally replaced by outsiders. > I love how Jewtube welds the Wikipedia article to the Great Replacement and tries to dismiss it as a "nationalist right wing conspiracy theory". > Europe taxes it’s citizens to import Africa Whilst Africa kicks out europeans Found em. Took about 10 minutes but I'm pretty sure I found what you were looking for. Do you believe me now? So now I've shown you what's out there. Now I ask you again: what should we do about this? Should we just... let these people continue to collaborate on their mission of hate on Youtube? Or should we like, do something about it before they decide to shoot someone else (El Paso / Christchurch)