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Absolutely not. It's not remotely a thing, and would not withstand any scrutiny whatsoever.

by jakewalker 7y ago

coliveira 7y ago
Except that it is happening right now, and I don't see politicians doing anything substantial to stop it.
- krapp 7y ago
  There's nothing to stop. Trump no more has the authority to order U.S. businesses around than you or I. He's an authoritarian thug who still doesn't know how governing works.
  - coliveira 7y ago
    The president controls the defense apparatus, which can label any country they wish a "threat to national security", which according to laws enacted since 9/11 can prevent American companies to do business with other countries. In the post 9/11, trumpian world, economic freedom depends on the mood of the president.
    - krapp 7y ago
      I'm sure you feel this is a really strong argument to make but don't copy and paste replies in a thread like that, it's spamming the thread.
      - coliveira 7y ago
        At least I have an argument, you have none but complaining.
        krapp 7y ago
        Alright, you want an argument? Just because the President has certain powers, doesn't mean he will be allowed to abuse those powers and remain unchecked. If Trump tried to force all American companies to stop doing business in China by declaring China a "national security threat," his efforts would be immediately met with a challenge from the courts and he would very likely be impeached or removed from office. What would not happen is the rest of the government simply throwing up their hands because "the president controls the defense apparatus." If it really worked that way, Trump would already have declared Mexico a national security threat, forced the government to fully fund the wall, seized all necessary lands via eminent domain and started building it by now.
        coliveira 7y ago
        It works so well that Trump is maintaining concentration camps where children are physically abused. And his appointments in the supreme court are letting him bypass congress and build a useless wall with money diverted from the military. If you think that this is normal, then you're part of the problem.

Absolutely not. It's not remotely a thing, and would not withstand any scrutiny whatsoever.

coliveira 7y ago

Except that it is happening right now, and I don't see politicians doing anything substantial to stop it.

krapp 7y ago
There's nothing to stop. Trump no more has the authority to order U.S. businesses around than you or I. He's an authoritarian thug who still doesn't know how governing works.
- coliveira 7y ago
  The president controls the defense apparatus, which can label any country they wish a "threat to national security", which according to laws enacted since 9/11 can prevent American companies to do business with other countries. In the post 9/11, trumpian world, economic freedom depends on the mood of the president.
  - krapp 7y ago
    I'm sure you feel this is a really strong argument to make but don't copy and paste replies in a thread like that, it's spamming the thread.
    - coliveira 7y ago
      At least I have an argument, you have none but complaining.
      - krapp 7y ago
        Alright, you want an argument? Just because the President has certain powers, doesn't mean he will be allowed to abuse those powers and remain unchecked. If Trump tried to force all American companies to stop doing business in China by declaring China a "national security threat," his efforts would be immediately met with a challenge from the courts and he would very likely be impeached or removed from office. What would not happen is the rest of the government simply throwing up their hands because "the president controls the defense apparatus." If it really worked that way, Trump would already have declared Mexico a national security threat, forced the government to fully fund the wall, seized all necessary lands via eminent domain and started building it by now.
        coliveira 7y ago
        It works so well that Trump is maintaining concentration camps where children are physically abused. And his appointments in the supreme court are letting him bypass congress and build a useless wall with money diverted from the military. If you think that this is normal, then you're part of the problem.