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> but how are you going into a country and stay there legally? The same way startups figure out how to survive and eventually profit: by continuously adapting

> but how are you going into a country and stay there legally? The same way startups figure out how to survive and eventually profit: by continuously adapting and continuously looking for opportunity. In our case, some of my relatives saved up enough "under the counter" money to pay a citizen to marry them until they were able to get a green card; after which they divorced. Others just married citizens. Others got enough education to get a work visa (I don't remember the details). You get the picture. It's a waste of time and energy, dwelling on what you don't have vs how to accomplish what you need to happen. I'm not saying that you should be ignorant of obstacles and challenges (you need to know what they are), but you need to focus on the openings & opportunities to get through. This is a generalization, but I feel that most if not all Asian cultures have this same spirit. Here's a modern example. https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/article/1774417/how-modern-day-chinese-migrants-are-making-new-life-italy https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/article/1774417/how-modern-da... I didn't downvote anyone on this thread

FabHK 7y ago
Ok, that's really funny. It would never in a million years occur to me to pay someone to marry me so I could live in some country. And, yes, some recent startups have skirted or crossed the line to illegality. My point remains - nowadays (unlike a century ago, if I'm not mistaken), the majority of people can not choose in which country to live (legally, at any rate).
- chaostheory 7y ago
  The past is often romanticized, but the reality is that it was never easy. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/american-chinatowns-history_n_6090692 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/american-chinatowns-history_n... I didn't say that your point was invalid. I'm just pointing out that when you're desperate enough to escape an authoritarian regime or other dangers, legality isn't as important of a consideration. There's plenty of grey areas to work in. ie if there's a will, there's a way

FabHK 7y ago

Ok, that's really funny. It would never in a million years occur to me to pay someone to marry me so I could live in some country. And, yes, some recent startups have skirted or crossed the line to illegality. My point remains - nowadays (unlike a century ago, if I'm not mistaken), the majority of people can not choose in which country to live (legally, at any rate).

chaostheory 7y ago
The past is often romanticized, but the reality is that it was never easy. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/american-chinatowns-history_n_6090692 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/american-chinatowns-history_n... I didn't say that your point was invalid. I'm just pointing out that when you're desperate enough to escape an authoritarian regime or other dangers, legality isn't as important of a consideration. There's plenty of grey areas to work in. ie if there's a will, there's a way