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You are aware that Google has vowed to actively fight any sort of fingerprinting right? https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/07/googles-chrome-will-soon-get-new-priva

You are aware that Google has vowed to actively fight any sort of fingerprinting right? https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/07/googles-chrome-will-soon-get-new-privacy-features-with-better-cookie-controls-and-anti-fingerprinting-tech/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/07/googles-chrome-will-soon-g...

magashna 7y ago
"Don't be evil" they said, until it became inconvenient. You can't take Google at their word because their word doesn't mean much. Especially when those vows directly contradict their main source of revenue, targeted ads.
- adam12 7y ago
  I loved Google back in 2005. It's sad to see what it has become.
  - airstrike 7y ago
    I still loved it as late as 2008... remember this? http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/1 http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/1
- vezycash 7y ago
  “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair
taurath 7y ago
They’re adding an option, knowing full well that 95% of users will never even think to look in the menu.
Nicksil 7y ago
The article you linked has Google stating they're planning, over the next few years, to add restrictions to the way fingerprinting is executed. Nothing mentions Google vowing to fight any sort of fingerprinting.
kube-system 7y ago
Yes, we're aware. The entire article linked in the OP is a direct response to Google's claims about fighting fingerprinting. The argument made by the Princeton researchers here is that Google's claims are not likely to result in good user privacy.
SilasX 7y ago
To borrow from Tony Stark: And I vowed to stop eating dairy, but then they named a Ben & Jerry's flavor after me, so ... Or Google's equivalent would be, "Then we realized there was money in it, so ..."
- ocdtrekkie 7y ago
  I didn't remember this line. III Avengers 14:53, apparently.
  - SilasX 7y ago
    You mean Infinity War? I'd never heard it referred to as Avengers 3, although I guess it's the third Avengers-branded one. And I edited the actual quote to include "vow"; the original is, "And I swore off dairy, but then Ben and Jerry’s named a flavor after me, so…".
    - ocdtrekkie 7y ago
      https://seanlennaerts.github.io/mcuverse/ https://seanlennaerts.github.io/mcuverse/ is now the best way to reference MCU lines.
      - wpietri 7y ago
        That is a delight. For those who haven't seen it, its title is "MCU Bible Verse", and it's a fast searchable list of quotes from the Marvel movies with references done in Bible style.
dessant 7y ago
> You are aware that Google has vowed to actively fight any sort of fingerprinting right? > CTO @ AdRoll I think it would be useful to build a tool that monitors HN users which have a conflict of interest and attempt to discredit valid arguments, or try to derail conversations.
- Liquix 7y ago
  Great catch + novel idea. But how would the tool distinguish between those sharing their legitimate controversial opinions (everyone has a right to free speech, no matter how 'brainwashed') vs. malicious active derailing?
  - acollins1331 7y ago
    Just knowing that the person is the CTO of adroll is enough. Let them speak their piece but it's basically a "this comment was paid for by" disclaimer.
- pvg 7y ago
  It would be against the rules of the site which disallow this kind of insinuation whether it's automated or not.
  - dredmorbius 7y ago
    Evidence-based demonstration is not insinuation. How HN decides to address that is a separate matter.
    - pvg 7y ago
      There is nothing 'evidence based' here. There is nothing wrong with the comment, no evidence it is an attempt to 'discredit valid arguments or derail conversation'. That's just a completely baseless accusation and, again, the site guidelines ask people not to do that. The user's affiliation is listed right in their profile, to boot. [Edit: mistook you for the original commenter and fixed that up]
- 7y ago

magashna 7y ago

"Don't be evil" they said, until it became inconvenient. You can't take Google at their word because their word doesn't mean much. Especially when those vows directly contradict their main source of revenue, targeted ads.

adam12 7y ago
I loved Google back in 2005. It's sad to see what it has become.
- airstrike 7y ago
  I still loved it as late as 2008... remember this? http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/1 http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/1
vezycash 7y ago
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair

taurath 7y ago

They’re adding an option, knowing full well that 95% of users will never even think to look in the menu.

Nicksil 7y ago

The article you linked has Google stating they're planning, over the next few years, to add restrictions to the way fingerprinting is executed. Nothing mentions Google vowing to fight any sort of fingerprinting.

kube-system 7y ago

Yes, we're aware. The entire article linked in the OP is a direct response to Google's claims about fighting fingerprinting. The argument made by the Princeton researchers here is that Google's claims are not likely to result in good user privacy.

SilasX 7y ago

To borrow from Tony Stark: And I vowed to stop eating dairy, but then they named a Ben & Jerry's flavor after me, so ... Or Google's equivalent would be, "Then we realized there was money in it, so ..."

ocdtrekkie 7y ago
I didn't remember this line. III Avengers 14:53, apparently.
- SilasX 7y ago
  You mean Infinity War? I'd never heard it referred to as Avengers 3, although I guess it's the third Avengers-branded one. And I edited the actual quote to include "vow"; the original is, "And I swore off dairy, but then Ben and Jerry’s named a flavor after me, so…".
  - ocdtrekkie 7y ago
    https://seanlennaerts.github.io/mcuverse/ https://seanlennaerts.github.io/mcuverse/ is now the best way to reference MCU lines.
    - wpietri 7y ago
      That is a delight. For those who haven't seen it, its title is "MCU Bible Verse", and it's a fast searchable list of quotes from the Marvel movies with references done in Bible style.

dessant 7y ago

> You are aware that Google has vowed to actively fight any sort of fingerprinting right? > CTO @ AdRoll I think it would be useful to build a tool that monitors HN users which have a conflict of interest and attempt to discredit valid arguments, or try to derail conversations.

Liquix 7y ago
Great catch + novel idea. But how would the tool distinguish between those sharing their legitimate controversial opinions (everyone has a right to free speech, no matter how 'brainwashed') vs. malicious active derailing?
- acollins1331 7y ago
  Just knowing that the person is the CTO of adroll is enough. Let them speak their piece but it's basically a "this comment was paid for by" disclaimer.
pvg 7y ago
It would be against the rules of the site which disallow this kind of insinuation whether it's automated or not.
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  Evidence-based demonstration is not insinuation. How HN decides to address that is a separate matter.
  - pvg 7y ago
    There is nothing 'evidence based' here. There is nothing wrong with the comment, no evidence it is an attempt to 'discredit valid arguments or derail conversation'. That's just a completely baseless accusation and, again, the site guidelines ask people not to do that. The user's affiliation is listed right in their profile, to boot. [Edit: mistook you for the original commenter and fixed that up]
7y ago