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Yep, any western company that thinks the Chinese government is going to allow them to have a large market share in China long term is straight up delusional (or

by throwaway2048 7y ago

Yep, any western company that thinks the Chinese government is going to allow them to have a large market share in China long term is straight up delusional (or thinking so short term they don't care at all) Company after company has been raided for IP and forced out of China, stop falling for the siren song.

chrischen 7y ago
Apple still has a large market share in China. Maybe Samsung just sucks and couldn’t compete against Huawei? Only reason Huawei hasn’t beat out Samsung in the US is because of anti-Huawei sentiment in the US.
- rhegart 7y ago
  That’s not true...Huawei stole from Nortel and it’s just that tech initially. Samsung was doing great before the forced anti Samsung protests (Huawei was already 1 at the time).
  - generatorguy 7y ago
    i'm a former nortel employee. so sad to see people lose their houses and pensions due to chinese theft. The hacking wasn't even publicized as a warning that other companies could heed - get your security in order, be careful with your IP, or you will go from 140,000 employees to a small cadre of lawyers and accountants managing the pittance that is left over. But at least none of the management at Nortel was embarrassed by the bad publicity of getting owned by the chinese and their inability to do anything about it.
- psychrometer 7y ago
  Isn't the cause of Samsung's decline in China due to boycotts related to THAAD deployment in SK?
  - dba7dba 7y ago
    Yes. THAAD was the reason.
- Tade0 7y ago
  Samsung is making a killing on selling OLED screens to both Huawei and Apple - I guess they figured it's easier and more profitable this way than to try re-conquer a saturated market.
knowaveragejoe 7y ago
If only we had some sort of mechanism to force China to fall in line. Something that would have leveraged all of the economies of the pacific together against their tendencies... some sort of partnership. A trans-pacific partnership, if you will. Surely Trump wouldn't have backed out of such an agreement on his first day of office.

chrischen 7y ago

Apple still has a large market share in China. Maybe Samsung just sucks and couldn’t compete against Huawei? Only reason Huawei hasn’t beat out Samsung in the US is because of anti-Huawei sentiment in the US.

rhegart 7y ago
That’s not true...Huawei stole from Nortel and it’s just that tech initially. Samsung was doing great before the forced anti Samsung protests (Huawei was already 1 at the time).
- generatorguy 7y ago
  i'm a former nortel employee. so sad to see people lose their houses and pensions due to chinese theft. The hacking wasn't even publicized as a warning that other companies could heed - get your security in order, be careful with your IP, or you will go from 140,000 employees to a small cadre of lawyers and accountants managing the pittance that is left over. But at least none of the management at Nortel was embarrassed by the bad publicity of getting owned by the chinese and their inability to do anything about it.
psychrometer 7y ago
Isn't the cause of Samsung's decline in China due to boycotts related to THAAD deployment in SK?
- dba7dba 7y ago
  Yes. THAAD was the reason.
Tade0 7y ago
Samsung is making a killing on selling OLED screens to both Huawei and Apple - I guess they figured it's easier and more profitable this way than to try re-conquer a saturated market.

knowaveragejoe 7y ago

If only we had some sort of mechanism to force China to fall in line. Something that would have leveraged all of the economies of the pacific together against their tendencies... some sort of partnership. A trans-pacific partnership, if you will. Surely Trump wouldn't have backed out of such an agreement on his first day of office.