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How? Junkies and other folks who throw needles on the street when there’s a trash can like 5 feet away will actually make appointments to stop at these consumpt
by throwaway827364 7y ago
How? Junkies and other folks who throw needles on the street when there’s a trash can like 5 feet away will actually make appointments to stop at these consumption sites? Who pays for this? The city of Seattle makes a mess because of their extremist policies of not enforcing laws so let’s raise taxes to make up for it?
- allana 7y agoPlease cite how Seattle's policy of not locking people up to rot in prison is extremist. You had a viable argument right up until that point! Edit: Thanks for the bot downvotes! Going from +2 to -1 in the span of a minute on two separate comments is a bit of a red flag :P
- EpicEng 7y agoNot arressting people for theft is pretty extremist and I can't imagine how that is a good thing for the citizens of Seattle.
- rdtwo 7y agoClearly you need to check your privilege and share your stuff...
- paggle 7y agoOK, design a punishment that will deter people from stealing. I’m not opposed to caning but for some reason the country refuses to do it.
- sbierwagen 7y agoAdding a comment complaining about being downvoted tends to invite more downvotes from unrelated posters.
- allana 7y agoThe timing is just so interesting though! Two of my comments saw 3 downvotes in the span of a minute, the latter of which was much further down than this comment.
- EpicEng 7y agoAmazing: A whole three downvotes! No way more than two people are reading this comment section at the same time.
- downandout 7y agoI downvoted you, and I’m pretty sure I’m not a bot. I did so because failing to lock up people that commit serious crimes is prima facie extremist - no citation is necessary.
- allana 7y agoYou were ratelimited by @dang for acting poorly, not surprisingly your continuing to act against the sites policy for downvoting.
- downandout 7y agoDownvoting is against the site’s policy? Why does the downvote button exist then?
- allana 7y agoDownvoting (from what I gather) is supposed to be used not as a disagree button, but rather as a tool when a comment doesn't add value to a conversation, hence why downvotes are so restricted on HN.
- downandout 7y agoI think you have a misunderstanding of this issue. If that’s the case, essentially every downvote I have ever received was an “abuse” of the feature.
- EpicEng 7y agoThis is completely wrong. dang - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17996858 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17996858 PG - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=392347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=392347 Downvoting as a tool to show disagreement has always been standard practice here. Mini-modding on the other hand...
- malandrew 7y ago> Who pays for this? sadly, me and other taxpayers like me in Seattle.
- BryantD 7y agoIt's always amusing to me to hear people complain about taxes in Seattle. Washington State doesn't have an income tax, y'all. If you haven't figured out that a lot of the weird (and bad) city tax issues arise from that, welp.
- lacker 7y agoTo me all of these issues seem like the same ones San Francisco is facing, which leads me to conclude that neither lowering income taxes nor raising income taxes is likely to solve them.
- BryantD 7y agoI've lived in both those cities this decade; the results are in some cases similar, but the issues are in fact different. The thing that's similar: both cities are warm enough so that you can reasonably live on the streets year round. Boston's an intensely liberal city and nobody uses it as an example of how liberal cities always have homeless problems. Similarly, Google "dallas homeless problem" sometime. Warm city, poor coordination of solutions for the homeless -- whoa, homeless populations are rising! But that once more does not fit the narrative, so nobody talks about it in threads like this. (Houston is doing much better. Houston, unlike Seattle, has put a priority on coordinating efforts to help homeless. HUH.) That said you're right -- it's not just about taxes. Seattle is low on revenue, but that's only part of why the city has failed to produce a coordinated response to homelessness. Bad organizational skills are not restricted to the right or the left, though.
- loft-a-way 7y agoHomelessness/drug use has indeed become a problem in Boston over the last few years - see [1]Methadone Mile and the problems in the [2]Common. [1]https://apps.bostonglobe.com/graphics/2016/07/methadone-mile/ https://apps.bostonglobe.com/graphics/2016/07/methadone-mile... [2]https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/08/21/boston-common-jewel-of-the-city-needs-first-aid/ https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/08/21/boston-common-jewel-...