6 ms·

And I'll stop wading through the waters of arguing with somebody void of the history of the topic. After I point out that the CIA made hundreds of attempts to a

And I'll stop wading through the waters of arguing with somebody void of the history of the topic. After I point out that the CIA made hundreds of attempts to assassinate Castro. You seem to be missing a whole portion of the story. So all I have for you now is, you are wrong.

vinceguidry 7y ago
Fine by me but can I point out before you leave that your points keep wandering. First it's "trillions" of dollars, when challenged, you say I know nothing of the history and state what just about anyone knows, that the CIA has attempted to assassinate Castro. I don't even know what point you're trying to make here. Cuba does not have a world-class medical industry, it's not a better place to live than the US, people do not flee the US to live in Cuba. Do I think the embargoes should end? Yes. Do I think the US interfered with Cuba's politics? Yes. Am I going to play a weird shell game with where I try to figure out what point you're trying to make? No. Cuba's a hellhole, we didn't make it that way, Castro was more than capable of doing that all by himself. He certainly was capable of resisting hundreds of assassination attempts, if indeed Escalante's 638 number referred to actual attempts.
- seamyb88 7y ago
  Manufacture your own victory if you wish. No better way than to nitpick an estimated figure in a quip, which incidentally is a correct one. I could suggest your next move: claim that I didn't mean spending over decades and imply I meant all in one day. Britain, the U.S., a selection of European countries, Russia , Israel and allies have fucked the world for the benefits of their elites. But, please, another anecdote about how people don't flee the USA (despite the glaringly obvious ramifications of wealth distribution on infrastructure). I conjecture that your inability to fathom my point is not my problem.

vinceguidry 7y ago

Fine by me but can I point out before you leave that your points keep wandering. First it's "trillions" of dollars, when challenged, you say I know nothing of the history and state what just about anyone knows, that the CIA has attempted to assassinate Castro. I don't even know what point you're trying to make here. Cuba does not have a world-class medical industry, it's not a better place to live than the US, people do not flee the US to live in Cuba. Do I think the embargoes should end? Yes. Do I think the US interfered with Cuba's politics? Yes. Am I going to play a weird shell game with where I try to figure out what point you're trying to make? No. Cuba's a hellhole, we didn't make it that way, Castro was more than capable of doing that all by himself. He certainly was capable of resisting hundreds of assassination attempts, if indeed Escalante's 638 number referred to actual attempts.

seamyb88 7y ago
Manufacture your own victory if you wish. No better way than to nitpick an estimated figure in a quip, which incidentally is a correct one. I could suggest your next move: claim that I didn't mean spending over decades and imply I meant all in one day. Britain, the U.S., a selection of European countries, Russia , Israel and allies have fucked the world for the benefits of their elites. But, please, another anecdote about how people don't flee the USA (despite the glaringly obvious ramifications of wealth distribution on infrastructure). I conjecture that your inability to fathom my point is not my problem.