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So what. The actual problem the whole idea is solving is a revolutionary improvement. And this is just v1. The "interface" problem is not custom controls or ba

So what. The actual problem the whole idea is solving is a revolutionary improvement. And this is just v1. The "interface" problem is not custom controls or back buttons. The interface problem is installing software. That's the interface most average people stumble on. That's where computers suck. So yeah, some of the UI in the Mac App Store app feels a bit off, but the stuff that matters - one click install of great apps onto your Mac - works beautifully. That's the interface triumph.

pornel 16y ago
Usually Apple has good solutions packaged in very polished UI. Solving problem with "meh" UI is a step down.
- jasonfried 16y ago
  Not always with v1. Apple UIs generally get better with age. They're still iterating large on things like iPhoto and iMovie.
  - tolmasky 16y ago
    Precisely, and itunes gets worse with every version, so another counter example there.
  - notyourwork 16y ago
    Better with age? I used iTunes years ago and just last week had to install it to resolve an issue with my girlfriends iPod. Not much has changed as far as I can tell and it still pisses me off to use. (Not bashing Apple, discussing your comment "not always with v1. Apple UIs generally get better with age.)
    - ugh 16y ago
      iTunes is very unlike Apple’s other apps.
trobertson 16y ago
>The actual problem the whole idea is solving is a revolutionary improvement. Last I checked, this was a solved problem in Ubuntu. What makes it revolutionary now that Apple's done it?
- mortenjorck 16y ago
  Reach.
- danilocampos 16y ago
  Most people don't use Ubuntu. Come on, man, it's a Linux Distro – how many of our moms are installing those? Plus there's the whole easy monetization thing for developers. This is like saying Dropbox's functionality was a solved problem thanks to rsync.
  - pizzaburger 16y ago
    Sure it's gaming-specific, but more prior art: http://steampowered.com http://steampowered.com
    - mishmash 16y ago
      It's one click and a password to buy from the Mac App Store whereas Steam takes five clicks and no password (if you have it set to remember). Apple's store is no revolution in my book, far from it, but at least they put that Amazon One-click patent to good use and made the process easy.
- cubicle67 16y ago
  the developers get paid
statictype 16y ago
The one-click install without having to dick around with disk images and dragging icons from one part of a window to another is great. But there's still lots of polish that it lacks. It puts every app in the dock. What happens when someone wants to remove the app and tries to do so by dragging it off the dock? The app still resides in the Applications folder but the user thinks it's gone. Now if he wants to download it again and goes back to the App Store the app is still marked as 'Installed' even though he thinks it's gone. If he knows to look in the Applications folder and then tries to drag it to the trash, you get a UAC dialog asking for the root password. So, they've partially solved the App install experience but not fully. The interface still has rough edges, which I'm sure they may eventually get right.

pornel 16y ago

Usually Apple has good solutions packaged in very polished UI. Solving problem with "meh" UI is a step down.

jasonfried 16y ago
Not always with v1. Apple UIs generally get better with age. They're still iterating large on things like iPhoto and iMovie.
- tolmasky 16y ago
  Precisely, and itunes gets worse with every version, so another counter example there.
- notyourwork 16y ago
  Better with age? I used iTunes years ago and just last week had to install it to resolve an issue with my girlfriends iPod. Not much has changed as far as I can tell and it still pisses me off to use. (Not bashing Apple, discussing your comment "not always with v1. Apple UIs generally get better with age.)
  - ugh 16y ago
    iTunes is very unlike Apple’s other apps.

trobertson 16y ago

>The actual problem the whole idea is solving is a revolutionary improvement. Last I checked, this was a solved problem in Ubuntu. What makes it revolutionary now that Apple's done it?

mortenjorck 16y ago
Reach.
danilocampos 16y ago
Most people don't use Ubuntu. Come on, man, it's a Linux Distro – how many of our moms are installing those? Plus there's the whole easy monetization thing for developers. This is like saying Dropbox's functionality was a solved problem thanks to rsync.
- pizzaburger 16y ago
  Sure it's gaming-specific, but more prior art: http://steampowered.com http://steampowered.com
  - mishmash 16y ago
    It's one click and a password to buy from the Mac App Store whereas Steam takes five clicks and no password (if you have it set to remember). Apple's store is no revolution in my book, far from it, but at least they put that Amazon One-click patent to good use and made the process easy.
cubicle67 16y ago
the developers get paid

statictype 16y ago

The one-click install without having to dick around with disk images and dragging icons from one part of a window to another is great. But there's still lots of polish that it lacks. It puts every app in the dock. What happens when someone wants to remove the app and tries to do so by dragging it off the dock? The app still resides in the Applications folder but the user thinks it's gone. Now if he wants to download it again and goes back to the App Store the app is still marked as 'Installed' even though he thinks it's gone. If he knows to look in the Applications folder and then tries to drag it to the trash, you get a UAC dialog asking for the root password. So, they've partially solved the App install experience but not fully. The interface still has rough edges, which I'm sure they may eventually get right.