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A statutory/compulsory license could solve this. It is already in use for internet radio in the US, and streaming video is not too different. Basically you can

A statutory/compulsory license could solve this. It is already in use for internet radio in the US, and streaming video is not too different. Basically you can pay a royalty set by law instead of negotiated individually with each company, but the rate is high enough that it still makes sense to negotiate a lower rate in many cases.

scarface74 7y ago
There is no compulsory license for on demand music like Spotify - only music where you don’t get to choose your songs. Do you really want a Pandora like service for video? So if we want to make their content compulsory, are you okay with making software licensing compulsory?
- gnopgnip 7y ago
  I would love to be able to watch everything in one place without ads, and be happy to pay for it. There is no reason that the licensing would only apply when you do not choose your shows or movies. Internet radio stations currently pay 22 cents for every 100 "plays" by those paying a subscription fee. And the system works well, creators are compensated, streaming companies can run a successful business, consumers do not need to subscribe to 5 different services to listen to the music they want.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    Internet radio stations currently pay 22 cents for every 100 "plays" by those paying a subscription fee. Movies cost a lot more than music and the price you site isn’t for on demand music - only for services where you can’t choose your songs. https://www.vox.com/2017/6/15/15807382/spotify-revenue-2016-financials-guarantee-payment-universal-merlin https://www.vox.com/2017/6/15/15807382/spotify-revenue-2016-... creators are compensated, Not really: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/26/how-spotify-apple-music-can-pay-musicians-more-commentary.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/26/how-spotify-apple-music-can-... https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/12/25/streaming-music-services-pay-2019/ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/12/25/streaming-music-... streaming companies can run a successful business, Not really... https://venturebeat.com/2019/02/06/spotify-posts-second-consecutive-quarterly-profit-but-projects-big-losses-for-2019/ https://venturebeat.com/2019/02/06/spotify-posts-second-cons...
    - gnopgnip 7y ago
      The cost of a movie ticket, or movie rental, or dvd/blu ray purchase is generally fixed within a narrow band. TV series prices vary a little more, but the vast majority is still within a similar range. A compulsory license price could be set that would both fairly compensate rights holders, and also to allow businesses to profitably provide streaming to consumers. Internet radio, and streaming music companies pay billions in royalties each year. For a variety of reasons about 75% of this does not go to artists and goes instead to record labels and other intermediaries, but this does not mean that creators are not compensated, or that they would be better off without internet radio and streaming. Spotify becoming profitable amid a competitive industry is a great example of a successful business.
      - scarface74 7y ago
        Spotify said they wouldn’t be profitable for the year. I provided the link above. You can look at the different published Netflix deals and see how much they are borrowing to license content to get an idea of how much it costs.

scarface74 7y ago

There is no compulsory license for on demand music like Spotify - only music where you don’t get to choose your songs. Do you really want a Pandora like service for video? So if we want to make their content compulsory, are you okay with making software licensing compulsory?

gnopgnip 7y ago
I would love to be able to watch everything in one place without ads, and be happy to pay for it. There is no reason that the licensing would only apply when you do not choose your shows or movies. Internet radio stations currently pay 22 cents for every 100 "plays" by those paying a subscription fee. And the system works well, creators are compensated, streaming companies can run a successful business, consumers do not need to subscribe to 5 different services to listen to the music they want.
- scarface74 7y ago
  Internet radio stations currently pay 22 cents for every 100 "plays" by those paying a subscription fee. Movies cost a lot more than music and the price you site isn’t for on demand music - only for services where you can’t choose your songs. https://www.vox.com/2017/6/15/15807382/spotify-revenue-2016-financials-guarantee-payment-universal-merlin https://www.vox.com/2017/6/15/15807382/spotify-revenue-2016-... creators are compensated, Not really: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/26/how-spotify-apple-music-can-pay-musicians-more-commentary.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/26/how-spotify-apple-music-can-... https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/12/25/streaming-music-services-pay-2019/ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/12/25/streaming-music-... streaming companies can run a successful business, Not really... https://venturebeat.com/2019/02/06/spotify-posts-second-consecutive-quarterly-profit-but-projects-big-losses-for-2019/ https://venturebeat.com/2019/02/06/spotify-posts-second-cons...
  - gnopgnip 7y ago
    The cost of a movie ticket, or movie rental, or dvd/blu ray purchase is generally fixed within a narrow band. TV series prices vary a little more, but the vast majority is still within a similar range. A compulsory license price could be set that would both fairly compensate rights holders, and also to allow businesses to profitably provide streaming to consumers. Internet radio, and streaming music companies pay billions in royalties each year. For a variety of reasons about 75% of this does not go to artists and goes instead to record labels and other intermediaries, but this does not mean that creators are not compensated, or that they would be better off without internet radio and streaming. Spotify becoming profitable amid a competitive industry is a great example of a successful business.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      Spotify said they wouldn’t be profitable for the year. I provided the link above. You can look at the different published Netflix deals and see how much they are borrowing to license content to get an idea of how much it costs.