>Valuable as a way to learn about business? Sure. hah. well, it depends on what you want to learn. I was taught business that way; If anything, in an even l

>Valuable as a way to learn about business? Sure. hah. well, it depends on what you want to learn. I was taught business that way; If anything, in an even lower-paying way. I grew pumpkins, with my Father's help, and then took them door to door in a wheelbarrow, selling them. Seventy five cents for the big ones and fifty cents for the little ones. I made maybe $25-$30 a year that way. I was maybe 10-12 at the time. The thing of it is, most HN readers, and especially Sebastian, would call me a loser even today; he would say I'm still overly focused on the "provide value" side of the coin; the business I spent the last five years on is worth maybe a cheap south-bay condo[1] right now, and I believe has the lowest margins in the industry. It pays my rent, sure, but if Sebastian looks down on patio11, he's going to look down on me, and really, anyone else who takes that view of business. [1] note, I actually like doing this, I wouldn't sell at that price; but as far as I can tell, that's market value, give or take.