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Aspects of Amazon's businesses have been breached in the past. One could argue that tech is Facebook's thing too, but that didn't stop them from storing million
by save_ferris 7y ago
Aspects of Amazon's businesses have been breached in the past. One could argue that tech is Facebook's thing too, but that didn't stop them from storing millions of passwords in plaintext[0]. Drinking the kool-aid of a big tech brand does not a secure platform make. Amazon is inevitably gonna get hit again someday precisely because they're Amazon.
Whether or not they could theoretically provide a more secure service has no bearing on the monopoly argument because the moment that we accept companies completely destroying fundamental tenets of capitalism (i.e. not controlling a market) because they can do it better is the moment that capitalism truly begins to die. Amazon shouldn't have the power to control the ecommerce market regardless of their security, and the fact that there are people out there willing to make this trade-off kinda scares me.
It's also not that hard to replace a credit card since the industry has been regulated to cooperate with consumers on fraudulent claims. As another user mentioned, password managers help here too.
0: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/03/facebook-stored-hundreds-of-millions-of-user-passwords-in-plain-text-for-years/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/03/facebook-stored-hundreds...
- darkerside 7y ago> Aspects of Amazon's businesses have been breached in the past What a vague condemnation. And is your post about security on its merits (examples of breaches please, unless you mean improperly configured S3 buckets)? Or is it just unrelated anti monopoly concerns?
- mc32 7y agoThey may have insider knowledge they ought not make public but can make vague remarks so as to not make things uncomfortable for parties involved.
- save_ferris 7y agoIf only there was a tool that you could enter search terms for and get results from :) Black Friday 2018, names and emails leaked: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/21/amazon-hit-with-major-data-breach-days-before-black-friday https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/21/amazon-hi... Amazon Kindle 2016, 80K names, emails, IP addresses, etc. Worth noting that Amazon has denied that this was a legit breach: https://www.mic.com/articles/148207/a-hacker-claims-to-have-leaked-80-000-amazon-users-passwords-and-personal-information#.t1h8RH0Z7 https://www.mic.com/articles/148207/a-hacker-claims-to-have-... Zappos (Amazon subsidiary) names, emails, billing info on 24M users leaked: https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazons-zappos-in-massive-data-breach-24-million-affected/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazons-zappos-in-massive-data... Whole Foods (Amazon subsidiary), credit card data breach: https://media.wholefoodsmarket.com/news/whole-foods-market-payment-card-investigation-notification https://media.wholefoodsmarket.com/news/whole-foods-market-p...
- soulofmischief 7y agoYour argument doesn't make sense. You admit that even Amazon, who makes a living in providing sophisticated technology, is not perfect when it comes to security. How does that help the argument that my data would be safer split across tons of non-technical providers? How does wanting digital security kill capitalism? What does capitalism have to do with the market of a Socialist country?