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> the intention to apply for asylum provides you with legal rights to enter the US Sort of, yeah. Check out Akinmade v NIS as an example: https://openjurist.or

> the intention to apply for asylum provides you with legal rights to enter the US Sort of, yeah. Check out Akinmade v NIS as an example: https://openjurist.org/196/f3d/951 https://openjurist.org/196/f3d/951 . Akinmade entered the US with a fake Canadian passport to request asylum. He was granted asylum

wang_li 7y ago
Paragraph 8 from your link: > The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) placed him in detention and commenced exclusion proceedings. Yes, people can apply for asylum after entering the country unlawfully. No, that doesn't mean you get free reign of the country while your case is decided. Nor does your illegal entry bar you from applying or receiving. It's notable though that the vast majority of asylum seekers illegally entering the US via the southern border are not refugees and do not qualify for asylum. This is easily seen by the fact that they are crossing from their home country into Mexico and not applying for asylum even though Mexico is largely a safe place to live compared to, for example, Honduras.
- openasocket 7y ago
  > that doesn't mean you get free reign of the country while your case is decided Of course not, that's where bail hearings come into play. The state can't keep an asylum claimee detained indefinitely without providing due process and evidence this person is a flight risk. >This is easily seen by the fact that they are crossing from their home country into Mexico and not applying for asylum even though Mexico is largely a safe place to live compared to, for example, Honduras. Seriously? Mexico is hardly a safe place if you are trying to escape gang violence. Hell, the US currently has multiple travel warnings out against various parts of Mexico. The ACLU is currently filing suit fighting back against exactly this mentality.
  - blackflame7000 7y ago
    How can they determine a proper bail for a person they are trying to vet in the first place? If El Chapo showed up I don't think he would care much.

wang_li 7y ago

Paragraph 8 from your link: > The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) placed him in detention and commenced exclusion proceedings. Yes, people can apply for asylum after entering the country unlawfully. No, that doesn't mean you get free reign of the country while your case is decided. Nor does your illegal entry bar you from applying or receiving. It's notable though that the vast majority of asylum seekers illegally entering the US via the southern border are not refugees and do not qualify for asylum. This is easily seen by the fact that they are crossing from their home country into Mexico and not applying for asylum even though Mexico is largely a safe place to live compared to, for example, Honduras.

openasocket 7y ago
> that doesn't mean you get free reign of the country while your case is decided Of course not, that's where bail hearings come into play. The state can't keep an asylum claimee detained indefinitely without providing due process and evidence this person is a flight risk. >This is easily seen by the fact that they are crossing from their home country into Mexico and not applying for asylum even though Mexico is largely a safe place to live compared to, for example, Honduras. Seriously? Mexico is hardly a safe place if you are trying to escape gang violence. Hell, the US currently has multiple travel warnings out against various parts of Mexico. The ACLU is currently filing suit fighting back against exactly this mentality.
- blackflame7000 7y ago
  How can they determine a proper bail for a person they are trying to vet in the first place? If El Chapo showed up I don't think he would care much.