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> It's considered completely reasonable for employers to terminate employees and not even pay them for the rest of the day. Nope.

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mikelyons 7y ago
"Nope." is cute and shows you're cocksure about that. However, the reality is that this happens all the time and is never punished by culture as "unprofessional" for a corporation to do. Who would punish them? The customers?
- fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
  >Who would punish them? The customers? Future potential employees. If I go on glassdoor and read about this happening I'm either going to A: raise my rates as I need to keep a larger emergency fund to deal with these guys B: decline to work there at all They end up only ever getting entry level kids to work for them. The system sort of works in that regard if you come from a non-traditional background you can work for a year or two at a job like that, skill up and move on.
  - mikelyons 7y ago
    There have been many threads on HN where the debate is "Do employees have enough power to [punish companies] if they need" but none of them have really every made a coherent case one way or the other, but they seem to lean "no" Disclaim: My personal Anecdote^
    - ailideex 7y ago
      If someone steals my car, and I don't have a means to punish them, is it also okay for them to steal my car? I don't really get your reasoning here.
      - mikelyons 7y ago
        Saying it's okay, that's up to you. Do they get away with it? YES!
- ailideex 7y ago
  > However, the reality is that this happens all the time Murder also happens all the time and it is not okay. Something happening does not mean it is okay.
  - mikelyons 7y ago
    Saying it's okay, that's up to you. Do they get away with it? YES!
    - ailideex 7y ago
      > It's considered completely reasonable for employers to terminate employees and not even pay them for the rest of the day. So where does the sentiment that it is completely okay come from?
      - mikelyons 7y ago
        The company's self-bias https://actualized.org/insights/aliens-confirmed https://actualized.org/insights/aliens-confirmed

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mikelyons 7y ago

"Nope." is cute and shows you're cocksure about that. However, the reality is that this happens all the time and is never punished by culture as "unprofessional" for a corporation to do. Who would punish them? The customers?

fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
>Who would punish them? The customers? Future potential employees. If I go on glassdoor and read about this happening I'm either going to A: raise my rates as I need to keep a larger emergency fund to deal with these guys B: decline to work there at all They end up only ever getting entry level kids to work for them. The system sort of works in that regard if you come from a non-traditional background you can work for a year or two at a job like that, skill up and move on.
- mikelyons 7y ago
  There have been many threads on HN where the debate is "Do employees have enough power to [punish companies] if they need" but none of them have really every made a coherent case one way or the other, but they seem to lean "no" Disclaim: My personal Anecdote^
  - ailideex 7y ago
    If someone steals my car, and I don't have a means to punish them, is it also okay for them to steal my car? I don't really get your reasoning here.
    - mikelyons 7y ago
      Saying it's okay, that's up to you. Do they get away with it? YES!
ailideex 7y ago
> However, the reality is that this happens all the time Murder also happens all the time and it is not okay. Something happening does not mean it is okay.
- mikelyons 7y ago
  Saying it's okay, that's up to you. Do they get away with it? YES!
  - ailideex 7y ago
    > It's considered completely reasonable for employers to terminate employees and not even pay them for the rest of the day. So where does the sentiment that it is completely okay come from?
    - mikelyons 7y ago
      The company's self-bias https://actualized.org/insights/aliens-confirmed https://actualized.org/insights/aliens-confirmed