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> I can’t see what the Chief Executive could possibly do Your assumption that HK doesn't have any autonomy might have something to do with that ;) As to what

> I can’t see what the Chief Executive could possibly do Your assumption that HK doesn't have any autonomy might have something to do with that ;) As to what she could do: she can do a lot; the protestors have a list of 5 demands, one of them is the withdrawal of the extradition-bill. She could comply with that, for example.

billfruit 7y ago
Which she has declared to have been withdrawn.
- decoyworker 7y ago
  Has not been formally withdrawn.
- spacehunt 7y ago
  She declared it "dead" which is not a legal term.
  - billfruit 7y ago
    Yes, but politicians speaking to the press often speak in a non-formal manner. At any rate the bill appears not to be under active consideration at present.
    - spacehunt 7y ago
      Doesn't matter; the government can still resume the second reading with only a few days notice and then rush through the bill within 24 hours, unless it is formally withdrawn.
- thecopy 7y ago
  No, it has been suspended. Withdrawn is a separate state. If the government in the future want implement this again, it is a lot less effort to continue a suspended bill rather than a withdraw. The difference is that with a withdrawn bill the legislative process needs to start from zero while a suspended can just be "unsuspended".
AmericanChopper 7y ago
But it seems quite obvious that she actually does not have the power to do that. She doesn’t even have the power to resign, she tried and China said no. Their demands also include permanent legislative independence from China. Something they obviously don’t have today, and will have less and less as China continues it’s stated policy of continuing the complete integration of Hong Kong into China. Any level of autonomy Hong Kong has is granted entirely at the discretion of China, and is only temporary in any case, as it has an expiry date. It’s exceedingly obvious to any observer that Hong Kong does not currently have sufficient autonomy to satisfy the protestors demands.

billfruit 7y ago

Which she has declared to have been withdrawn.

decoyworker 7y ago
Has not been formally withdrawn.
spacehunt 7y ago
She declared it "dead" which is not a legal term.
- billfruit 7y ago
  Yes, but politicians speaking to the press often speak in a non-formal manner. At any rate the bill appears not to be under active consideration at present.
  - spacehunt 7y ago
    Doesn't matter; the government can still resume the second reading with only a few days notice and then rush through the bill within 24 hours, unless it is formally withdrawn.
thecopy 7y ago
No, it has been suspended. Withdrawn is a separate state. If the government in the future want implement this again, it is a lot less effort to continue a suspended bill rather than a withdraw. The difference is that with a withdrawn bill the legislative process needs to start from zero while a suspended can just be "unsuspended".

AmericanChopper 7y ago

But it seems quite obvious that she actually does not have the power to do that. She doesn’t even have the power to resign, she tried and China said no. Their demands also include permanent legislative independence from China. Something they obviously don’t have today, and will have less and less as China continues it’s stated policy of continuing the complete integration of Hong Kong into China. Any level of autonomy Hong Kong has is granted entirely at the discretion of China, and is only temporary in any case, as it has an expiry date. It’s exceedingly obvious to any observer that Hong Kong does not currently have sufficient autonomy to satisfy the protestors demands.