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To be fair, most single-window apps on OS X already quit when the window is closed. This is typically the desired behavior, especially for those less computer-s

To be fair, most single-window apps on OS X already quit when the window is closed. This is typically the desired behavior, especially for those less computer-savvy.

smackfu 16y ago
OTOH, how can you tell if it is single-window or not? iTunes is not, closing it leaves it running. iPhoto is, closing it shuts it down. Both look pretty much the same.
- bonaldi 16y ago
  iTunes is multi-window -- double-click any playlist to see. Even if it weren't, you don't want it to quit when you close its last window, you want the music to play on. The distinction is arbitrary, though. There are plenty of single-window apps I'd like to stay running.
- roc 16y ago
  I get the feeling everything not aimed at professionals is going to begin moving toward the single-window and full-screen experiences. Likely in a slow march as opposed to all-at-once, but it seems inevitable to me. Regular people never really took advantage of the MDI anyway. (Not that I blame them, overlapping windows made a mess of everything.)
  - commandar 16y ago
    >(Not that I blame them, overlapping windows made a mess of everything.) Yet this move is happening exactly as extremely high resolution displays that can easily handle multiple side-by-side windows are becoming commonplace.
    - roc 16y ago
      And after multitasking research has shown how poorly most humans handle it. And after computer use research has shown how poorly most humans handle MDI. And after several products from several manufacturers have proven the change to focused-single-task to be not only palatable, but even preferable and popular. MDI is a great thing for a certain class of people. And I'm talking about a trend in software for everyone else. Those people weren't a high-res monitor away from becoming power-users. It was never going to happen.
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      - commandar 16y ago
        >And after several products from several manufacturers have proven the change to focused-single-task to be not only palatable, but even preferable and popular. And these devices have all had relatively small displays with totally different input methods, which is my entire point. It's the same mistake that was made in the early days of mobile devices in reverse. I don't believe that interface paradigms are one-size-fits-all. Totally modal interfaces ala iPhone/iPad make sense when you have to maximize display efficiency, but they don't make anywhere near as much sense when you have 20"+ displays with megapixel level resolutions to work with.

To be fair, most single-window apps on OS X already quit when the window is closed. This is typically the desired behavior, especially for those less computer-savvy.

smackfu 16y ago

OTOH, how can you tell if it is single-window or not? iTunes is not, closing it leaves it running. iPhoto is, closing it shuts it down. Both look pretty much the same.

bonaldi 16y ago
iTunes is multi-window -- double-click any playlist to see. Even if it weren't, you don't want it to quit when you close its last window, you want the music to play on. The distinction is arbitrary, though. There are plenty of single-window apps I'd like to stay running.
roc 16y ago
I get the feeling everything not aimed at professionals is going to begin moving toward the single-window and full-screen experiences. Likely in a slow march as opposed to all-at-once, but it seems inevitable to me. Regular people never really took advantage of the MDI anyway. (Not that I blame them, overlapping windows made a mess of everything.)
- commandar 16y ago
  >(Not that I blame them, overlapping windows made a mess of everything.) Yet this move is happening exactly as extremely high resolution displays that can easily handle multiple side-by-side windows are becoming commonplace.
  - roc 16y ago
    And after multitasking research has shown how poorly most humans handle it. And after computer use research has shown how poorly most humans handle MDI. And after several products from several manufacturers have proven the change to focused-single-task to be not only palatable, but even preferable and popular. MDI is a great thing for a certain class of people. And I'm talking about a trend in software for everyone else. Those people weren't a high-res monitor away from becoming power-users. It was never going to happen.
    - deleted 16y ago
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    - commandar 16y ago
      >And after several products from several manufacturers have proven the change to focused-single-task to be not only palatable, but even preferable and popular. And these devices have all had relatively small displays with totally different input methods, which is my entire point. It's the same mistake that was made in the early days of mobile devices in reverse. I don't believe that interface paradigms are one-size-fits-all. Totally modal interfaces ala iPhone/iPad make sense when you have to maximize display efficiency, but they don't make anywhere near as much sense when you have 20"+ displays with megapixel level resolutions to work with.