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It is strange that the author does not reference the whole 'Nouvelle AI' movement of the late 1980's that was a direct response to the 'symbol systems' of class

It is strange that the author does not reference the whole 'Nouvelle AI' movement of the late 1980's that was a direct response to the 'symbol systems' of classic AI, proclaiming the necessity for embodiment as a prerequisite for grounding. See for example Brook's classic "Elephants don't play chess", or Steel's write up on "The Artificial Life roots of Artificial Intelligence"

jackhack 7y ago
More than just strange, it's a glaring omission -- MIT Prof. Rod Brooks paved these roads nearly 3 decades ago and arrived at these ideas through deduction and experimentation. He made the argument that embodiment is an essential component of AI in his paper "Intelligence Without Reason" ( https://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/AIM-1293.pdf https://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/AIM-1293.pdf ) COG was his groups' attempt to build a humanoid robot: http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/cog/overview.html http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/cog/o... (see "Why not simulate it?") but he and his grad-student researchers devoted considerable effort to exploring the importance of embodiment, especially in humanoids: http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/index.html http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/index... The Mobile Robots Lab built biologically inspired robots that were remarkably capable and able to function to dynamic events in the real world (rather than carefully controlled lab environments).
- PeterStuer 7y ago
  Great guy. Here's an anecdote from that time. He spent a few months on sabbatical at our lab ( https://ai.vub.ac.be/ https://ai.vub.ac.be/ ) in those days. We were preparing robots for a NATO Advanced Study Institute ( https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783642796319 https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783642796319 ), and I was struggling writing the serial driver for a custom embedded computer for this as the system kept crashing (due to a bug in the dram controller). Anyways, Rod Brooks, offered to help me with the coding. It wasn't needed as the code was not the problem, but I don't know many professors that could and would be prepared to dive in that deep.

jackhack 7y ago

More than just strange, it's a glaring omission -- MIT Prof. Rod Brooks paved these roads nearly 3 decades ago and arrived at these ideas through deduction and experimentation. He made the argument that embodiment is an essential component of AI in his paper "Intelligence Without Reason" ( https://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/AIM-1293.pdf https://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/AIM-1293.pdf ) COG was his groups' attempt to build a humanoid robot: http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/cog/overview.html http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/cog/o... (see "Why not simulate it?") but he and his grad-student researchers devoted considerable effort to exploring the importance of embodiment, especially in humanoids: http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/index.html http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/index... The Mobile Robots Lab built biologically inspired robots that were remarkably capable and able to function to dynamic events in the real world (rather than carefully controlled lab environments).

PeterStuer 7y ago
Great guy. Here's an anecdote from that time. He spent a few months on sabbatical at our lab ( https://ai.vub.ac.be/ https://ai.vub.ac.be/ ) in those days. We were preparing robots for a NATO Advanced Study Institute ( https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783642796319 https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783642796319 ), and I was struggling writing the serial driver for a custom embedded computer for this as the system kept crashing (due to a bug in the dram controller). Anyways, Rod Brooks, offered to help me with the coding. It wasn't needed as the code was not the problem, but I don't know many professors that could and would be prepared to dive in that deep.