> In JS, unless you're doing vanilla JS, you need to select and bolt together a lot of different third party tooling first, or you have to use a boilerplate, of

> In JS, unless you're doing vanilla JS, you need to select and bolt together a lot of different third party tooling first, or you have to use a boilerplate, of which there are many versions to choose from. That might have been true once but its not anymore. Assuming you have node installed, its a one liner to get started in React[0] and Angular[1]. I've found that many of the criticisms of the modern JS stack come from outdated views about the ecosystem (no offense intended). I'd encourage you to give it another try (especially TypeScript) It's matured quite a bit. [0] https://github.com/facebook/create-react-app https://github.com/facebook/create-react-app [1] https://cli.angular.io/ https://cli.angular.io/