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A parody of how religious parents raise their children so that churches who allow adult baptism or female pastors barely even count as Christian, presenting the

A parody of how religious parents raise their children so that churches who allow adult baptism or female pastors barely even count as Christian, presenting these differences as though no good person doubts them. I may be projecting a little bit.

pjm331 7y ago
Hah seems pretty spot on to me. Was raised RC and always marveled at certain family members’ ability to become irate over small differences like these. Religion/Philosophy (really many parts of the human experience), is often like DNA - 99.9% the same but it’s the 0.01% difference that gets all the attention
- sterlind 7y ago
  Reminds me of what little I know of the split between the Salafi Muslims and the Sunni. IIRC, despite Salafi Islam developing from the teachings of Sunni cleric al-Wahhab, they view other Muslims as apostates, practicing shirk and therefore unforgivable sinners. On the Christian side, some Seventh-Day Adventists apparently see the Catholic church as the "Whore of Babylon" and the pope as the antichrist. [0] Maybe the closeness between two groups just means they can be really detailed and exact about why they hate each other. 0. https://www.catholic.com/tract/seventh-day-adventism https://www.catholic.com/tract/seventh-day-adventism
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  - jacobolus 7y ago
    > some Seventh-Day Adventists apparently see the Catholic church as the "Whore of Babylon" That’s probably not too far off. My impression is that the Hebrew Bible was written by nomadic shepherds who despised cosmopolitan city-dwellers who they thought had loose morals. And similarly for the authors of the New Testament, who despised the Roman Empire of the day (“Babylon” here is thought to be a stand-in for Rome). It is quite ironic that this became the holy teaching of the state religion of the Roman Empire a few centuries later. (Disclaimer: I am not a religious person and am by no means an expert on the Bible.)
- duxup 7y ago
  >9.9% the same but it’s the 0.01% difference that gets all the attention Ah the good old: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_difference... Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4
  - waterhouse 7y ago
    Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?" He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!" Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.
- simula67 7y ago
  To be fair, sometimes small looking differences can have a huge impact over long periods of time.
Avshalom 7y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3fAcxcxoZ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3fAcxcxoZ8
jawns 7y ago
I know of no Christian denomination that prohibits adult baptism. But there are some that don't regard infant baptism as authentic. https://www.catholic.com/tract/infant-baptism https://www.catholic.com/tract/infant-baptism
- TheCoelacanth 7y ago
  Denominations that practice infant baptism typically don't allow adults who were baptized as infants to be baptized. In fact, they imprisoned and executed many people for doing so. Denominations that don't practice infant baptism would allow those adults to be baptized because they don't regard the first one as authentic.
  - jawns 7y ago
    Do you have a source for the claim related to imprisonment/execution in your first paragraph? It's true that denominations that practice infant baptism usually don't allow adults who were baptized as infants to be re-baptized, because they consider the person to be already baptized, so there's no need. But even in cases where denominations try diligently to avoid the case where they're conferring baptism on someone who may have already been baptized (as in the case of the Catholic church and conditional baptism), there are no penalties for baptizing someone who was already baptized. It's just sort of a pointless thing, unless you reject the idea that infant baptism is legitimate, in which case why belong to a denomination that practices infant baptism? Maybe there were penalties in the past that I'm not aware of, so I'd love to learn more about the executions.
    - TheCoelacanth 7y ago
      This Washington Post article gives a good overview[1]. It's true that they don't execute people for it anymore, but that's just because they have eased up on their treatment of heretics in general, not because they have started condoning the practice. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2004/06/19/atonement-for-2-centuries-of-persecution/7d724d0f-5e13-4c2c-b1f1-880f6e10f120/?noredirect=on https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2004/06/19/aton...

pjm331 7y ago

Hah seems pretty spot on to me. Was raised RC and always marveled at certain family members’ ability to become irate over small differences like these. Religion/Philosophy (really many parts of the human experience), is often like DNA - 99.9% the same but it’s the 0.01% difference that gets all the attention

sterlind 7y ago
Reminds me of what little I know of the split between the Salafi Muslims and the Sunni. IIRC, despite Salafi Islam developing from the teachings of Sunni cleric al-Wahhab, they view other Muslims as apostates, practicing shirk and therefore unforgivable sinners. On the Christian side, some Seventh-Day Adventists apparently see the Catholic church as the "Whore of Babylon" and the pope as the antichrist. [0] Maybe the closeness between two groups just means they can be really detailed and exact about why they hate each other. 0. https://www.catholic.com/tract/seventh-day-adventism https://www.catholic.com/tract/seventh-day-adventism
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- jacobolus 7y ago
  > some Seventh-Day Adventists apparently see the Catholic church as the "Whore of Babylon" That’s probably not too far off. My impression is that the Hebrew Bible was written by nomadic shepherds who despised cosmopolitan city-dwellers who they thought had loose morals. And similarly for the authors of the New Testament, who despised the Roman Empire of the day (“Babylon” here is thought to be a stand-in for Rome). It is quite ironic that this became the holy teaching of the state religion of the Roman Empire a few centuries later. (Disclaimer: I am not a religious person and am by no means an expert on the Bible.)
duxup 7y ago
>9.9% the same but it’s the 0.01% difference that gets all the attention Ah the good old: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_difference... Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4
- waterhouse 7y ago
  Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?" He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!" Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.
simula67 7y ago
To be fair, sometimes small looking differences can have a huge impact over long periods of time.

Avshalom 7y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3fAcxcxoZ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3fAcxcxoZ8

jawns 7y ago

I know of no Christian denomination that prohibits adult baptism. But there are some that don't regard infant baptism as authentic. https://www.catholic.com/tract/infant-baptism https://www.catholic.com/tract/infant-baptism

TheCoelacanth 7y ago
Denominations that practice infant baptism typically don't allow adults who were baptized as infants to be baptized. In fact, they imprisoned and executed many people for doing so. Denominations that don't practice infant baptism would allow those adults to be baptized because they don't regard the first one as authentic.
- jawns 7y ago
  Do you have a source for the claim related to imprisonment/execution in your first paragraph? It's true that denominations that practice infant baptism usually don't allow adults who were baptized as infants to be re-baptized, because they consider the person to be already baptized, so there's no need. But even in cases where denominations try diligently to avoid the case where they're conferring baptism on someone who may have already been baptized (as in the case of the Catholic church and conditional baptism), there are no penalties for baptizing someone who was already baptized. It's just sort of a pointless thing, unless you reject the idea that infant baptism is legitimate, in which case why belong to a denomination that practices infant baptism? Maybe there were penalties in the past that I'm not aware of, so I'd love to learn more about the executions.
  - TheCoelacanth 7y ago
    This Washington Post article gives a good overview[1]. It's true that they don't execute people for it anymore, but that's just because they have eased up on their treatment of heretics in general, not because they have started condoning the practice. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2004/06/19/atonement-for-2-centuries-of-persecution/7d724d0f-5e13-4c2c-b1f1-880f6e10f120/?noredirect=on https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2004/06/19/aton...