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Definitely feel your frustration re: JSON for something as close-to-the-metal as a debugger. It seems like the issue is understood: people prefer string-based

Definitely feel your frustration re: JSON for something as close-to-the-metal as a debugger. It seems like the issue is understood: people prefer string-based protocols because they can read and interpret them at a glance with no ramp up time, whereas a binary protocol requires extra tooling and manual translation (at least until the programmer memorizes it). Whether or not programmer comfort/ease should be the primary driver of development decisions, it's hard to pretend like it's not at this point. Probably competes only with "buzzword needed for my resume" in terms of the true rationale behind system design, regardless of the flimsy justifications that people may try to make up. Taking that into consideration, the reason MS may release a debug protocol based on JSON is that they want developers to use it, and developers will always use the thing that looks simplest at a superficial glance. I've found, for example, that most devs will cram arbitrarily large quantities of production-critical data into anything that vaguely resembles a data hole and then yell and scream when you try to explain the meaning of "cache", "ramdisk", or even "temporary" to them. Expecting more from the developing public at large is just setting oneself up for failure.

BoorishBears 7y ago
> I've found, for example, that most devs will cram arbitrarily large quantities of production-critical data into anything that vaguely resembles a data hole and then yell and scream when you try to explain the meaning of "cache", "ramdisk", or even "temporary" to them. Expecting more from the developing public at large is just setting oneself up for failure. I was going to point out how disgustingly condescending this was and how it reeks of someone who overinflates their own sense of ability via ego... but then I read your profile which brags about getting muted and whatnot and realized that's exactly what you take pride in so...
- cookiecaper 7y ago
  /shrug It's a conclusion that's been burned into me after many years of attempting to recover from data loss events precipitated by people who just want to get their boxes ticked in the most convenient way possible and get home, with no regard for whether what they're doing is sustainable or appropriate. If you haven't been exposed to that in the course of your career, then I'm happy for you. As for "bragging" about HN's censorship, the snippet was added after people emailed to ask why I had stopped responding to them. I can see where you're coming from on the tone and I'll try to make a few adjustments and see where that gets us. Thanks for sharing your POV -- honest feedback is hard to come by. :)

BoorishBears 7y ago

> I've found, for example, that most devs will cram arbitrarily large quantities of production-critical data into anything that vaguely resembles a data hole and then yell and scream when you try to explain the meaning of "cache", "ramdisk", or even "temporary" to them. Expecting more from the developing public at large is just setting oneself up for failure. I was going to point out how disgustingly condescending this was and how it reeks of someone who overinflates their own sense of ability via ego... but then I read your profile which brags about getting muted and whatnot and realized that's exactly what you take pride in so...

cookiecaper 7y ago
/shrug It's a conclusion that's been burned into me after many years of attempting to recover from data loss events precipitated by people who just want to get their boxes ticked in the most convenient way possible and get home, with no regard for whether what they're doing is sustainable or appropriate. If you haven't been exposed to that in the course of your career, then I'm happy for you. As for "bragging" about HN's censorship, the snippet was added after people emailed to ask why I had stopped responding to them. I can see where you're coming from on the tone and I'll try to make a few adjustments and see where that gets us. Thanks for sharing your POV -- honest feedback is hard to come by. :)