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The Xbox case is notably more important because of the disproportionate number of children using the service and the associated COPPA implications. But can you

by gundmc 7y ago

The Xbox case is notably more important because of the disproportionate number of children using the service and the associated COPPA implications. But can you provide a source for any of these companies "selling/giving the recording to just about anyone"? The only stories I have seen involve contractors working for the company on QA/labelling. It seems like a pretty gross misrepresentation to imply they're somehow selling or trading voice recordings.

Balgair 7y ago
Per the Amazon Privacy notice [0], they claim that they do not 'sell' your data. I've not parsed it in detail, but a quick preusal of it does not specify the sharing of the information of children specifically. Nor does the privacy notice mention what 'sell' means. Is rental of data included, is lonaing the data included, what is meant by data, what is meant by secure, what happends when a contrator just runs off with the data and then sells it? I've not looked at the policies of the other various 'mic is in the house' devices, as Amazon's privacy notice is suprisingly readable and short in comparison (hence why I linked it above). Suffice to say, there are enough weasel words in these privacy notices that you agree to that these companies can claim non-liability over just about anything. Look, I'm not a lawyer and I'm not an expert in these EULA thingys, but they smell really fishy and I'm pretty sure at this point in the internet that they are not written for my benefit. I'm not too pleased with such practices and such an ethos involving personal conversations of the people that I love and that love me. If they end up selling the data to just about anyone, I'm not going to be suprised, just very disappointed in those people and the people that have to forgive them for trading the (perhaps very personal) conversations of children and adults for some more numbers on a checking account screen. [0] https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=468496 https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=...

by gundmc 7y ago

Balgair 7y ago

Per the Amazon Privacy notice [0], they claim that they do not 'sell' your data. I've not parsed it in detail, but a quick preusal of it does not specify the sharing of the information of children specifically. Nor does the privacy notice mention what 'sell' means. Is rental of data included, is lonaing the data included, what is meant by data, what is meant by secure, what happends when a contrator just runs off with the data and then sells it? I've not looked at the policies of the other various 'mic is in the house' devices, as Amazon's privacy notice is suprisingly readable and short in comparison (hence why I linked it above). Suffice to say, there are enough weasel words in these privacy notices that you agree to that these companies can claim non-liability over just about anything. Look, I'm not a lawyer and I'm not an expert in these EULA thingys, but they smell really fishy and I'm pretty sure at this point in the internet that they are not written for my benefit. I'm not too pleased with such practices and such an ethos involving personal conversations of the people that I love and that love me. If they end up selling the data to just about anyone, I'm not going to be suprised, just very disappointed in those people and the people that have to forgive them for trading the (perhaps very personal) conversations of children and adults for some more numbers on a checking account screen. [0] https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=468496 https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=...