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You don't need to trace individual ballots. You just need to count the number of ballots received against the number of votes signed in the registration books.
by beat 7y ago
You don't need to trace individual ballots. You just need to count the number of ballots received against the number of votes signed in the registration books. With that simple audit, your whole "we just found this box of ballots" scenario falls apart. That box of ballots would have to be traced back to a precinct, which traces back to a book full of signatures of individual voters, and to handling signoffs by multiple election judges.
Just because Florida is unwilling to do it doesn't mean it can't be done.
- 18pfsmt 7y ago>Just because Florida is To be fair, I believe that is not the case across the state, just certain areas (i.e. county level).
- beat 7y agoEh. If state law were clear, county-by-county shenanigans would be impossible. Florida's whole system is a mess.
- 18pfsmt 7y agoUnder a proper federalized system, that shouldn't matter unless one lives in FL. Let them handle their local issues how their voters see fit; they have voter initiatives there. The only people that have issues with the way things are done in other states are people that want to use the federal government to impose their standards and values on people living 100s or 1,000s of miles away (I'm ~2,000 miles from D.C.).
- beat 7y agoBullshit. Florida's electoral incompetence and corruption (probably) handed the 2000 presidential election to Bush. Because of that, we wound up with the Iraq war, and a mind-boggling amount of American blood and treasure (not to mention Iraqi lives) wasted on lies. Florida's inability to conduct free and fair elections has tangible consequences on me as a Minnesotan. So yes, I want to impose some standards and values on their elections, because their elections lead to MY president.
- 18pfsmt 7y agoVery civil. I love reading HN so I can read "Bullshit." More intolerant authoritarianism is not the answer to your issues.
- beat 7y agoPointing out that bullshit is bullshit is not "intolerant authoritarianism". It's simple honesty. I'm not suggesting a federal takeover of elections. I am, however, pointing out that some states, like Florida, are running elections so badly that it harms other states.