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Trump was talking about him "liking girls on the younger side" in 2002. Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting an underaged prostitute in 2008, sane people had b

Trump was talking about him "liking girls on the younger side" in 2002. Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting an underaged prostitute in 2008, sane people had been distancing themselves. Anybody who had anything to do with Epstein after ~2009-2010 did so in the face of active public castigation. The 2005 investigation stemmed from a mother bringing her daughter to the police station after she had been at Epstein's mansion. And the evidence included over 50 underaged girls, before the prosecution dropped it to two counts and then one count of assault... and NOT for lack of evidence. The girls' high school report cards were found in his house. The man was a pedophile and a predator. The fact that anyone was willing to associate with him in any capacity after 2008 is just insane. In 2009 the flight logs were leaked and the smart people in that list cut contact. Anyone who continued to associate with Epstein after that did with the full knowledge of what he was, because people would actively reach out to them to ask about it.

azinman2 7y ago
Yes it seems bad that Joi had any involvement with him after these charges. Raising money is a powerful motivator, and that money is rarely clean. This is just more on the surface. The Media Lab was funded by Schlumberger when I was there, which is a big oil/gas company. Helping accelerate climate change is a horror to the world that might lead to the mass extinction of our species. Yet no one seems to resign over that. But in terms of Marvin, we don’t know what his involvement was. Only an allegation in court. And from what I know about Marvin, I wouldn’t assume he would do research on someone like that before deciding to attend a dinner. More importantly, it’s completely inconceivable in my mind that he actually was involved any extra martial affairs, let alone a sex trafficked prostitute. He once told me “what’s the point of a body? We should all be heads on top of a cart.” He was already super old at that point. So to combine his higher plane of existence with the lack of hormones from an old age, it just seems extremely improbable to me. I feel bad for all the woman involved with Epstein. He’s clearly done some really terrible things. But let’s not take down the character of others (who aren’t even alive to defend themselves) solely based on an accusation.

azinman2 7y ago

Yes it seems bad that Joi had any involvement with him after these charges. Raising money is a powerful motivator, and that money is rarely clean. This is just more on the surface. The Media Lab was funded by Schlumberger when I was there, which is a big oil/gas company. Helping accelerate climate change is a horror to the world that might lead to the mass extinction of our species. Yet no one seems to resign over that. But in terms of Marvin, we don’t know what his involvement was. Only an allegation in court. And from what I know about Marvin, I wouldn’t assume he would do research on someone like that before deciding to attend a dinner. More importantly, it’s completely inconceivable in my mind that he actually was involved any extra martial affairs, let alone a sex trafficked prostitute. He once told me “what’s the point of a body? We should all be heads on top of a cart.” He was already super old at that point. So to combine his higher plane of existence with the lack of hormones from an old age, it just seems extremely improbable to me. I feel bad for all the woman involved with Epstein. He’s clearly done some really terrible things. But let’s not take down the character of others (who aren’t even alive to defend themselves) solely based on an accusation.