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If you even think thoughts like "... making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival" you are unworthy of your wealth in my ey

If you even think thoughts like "... making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival" you are unworthy of your wealth in my eyes. Apparently they are also unworthy in their own eyes, I mean they have very little faith in their ability to reason with people and get a fair (micro) economy going based on fair capitalistic principles without any coercion of free minds. These are not people you want around when rebuilding society and not people that have an intrinsic feeling for the "golden rule". I have the feeling the author met a particular small group of rich sociopaths. I wouldn't want to insult any social rich people by grouping them with this kind actually. In any case, someone will kill you while you are putting that collar on someone else.

michaelt 7y ago
I'm not sure it's that they're "unworthy in their own eyes" as much as a belief (a) their current worth depends on property rights existing; and (b) that their other skills, while they may be vital to a developed economy, aren't that valuable in one based on subsistence agriculture. Everyone knows in zombie movies every band of survivors is riven with conflict and factions who end up fighting, after all!
GVIrish 7y ago
I think it's because for the most rapacious capitalists, the human experience is solely governed by 'might makes right'. For them, the only reason people cooperate or do something kind, is either for some reward or to avoid punishment. These are the people that got to the top by being ruthless and/or immoral, so their world view is built on naked self-interest. Without governments to enforce the law or money to keep people in line, they believe that things will immediately revert to the law of the jungle.
- spoovy 7y ago
  "Without governments to enforce the law or money to keep people in line, they believe that things will immediately revert to the law of the jungle." If they think that they would be right. States collapse relatively regularly and broadly the same thing happens every time -- gangs, tribal affiliations etc replace the previous rule of law, and protection racketeering becomes the norm. If you think it would be any different wherever you live you're kidding yourself.

michaelt 7y ago

I'm not sure it's that they're "unworthy in their own eyes" as much as a belief (a) their current worth depends on property rights existing; and (b) that their other skills, while they may be vital to a developed economy, aren't that valuable in one based on subsistence agriculture. Everyone knows in zombie movies every band of survivors is riven with conflict and factions who end up fighting, after all!

GVIrish 7y ago

I think it's because for the most rapacious capitalists, the human experience is solely governed by 'might makes right'. For them, the only reason people cooperate or do something kind, is either for some reward or to avoid punishment. These are the people that got to the top by being ruthless and/or immoral, so their world view is built on naked self-interest. Without governments to enforce the law or money to keep people in line, they believe that things will immediately revert to the law of the jungle.

spoovy 7y ago
"Without governments to enforce the law or money to keep people in line, they believe that things will immediately revert to the law of the jungle." If they think that they would be right. States collapse relatively regularly and broadly the same thing happens every time -- gangs, tribal affiliations etc replace the previous rule of law, and protection racketeering becomes the norm. If you think it would be any different wherever you live you're kidding yourself.