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Believe it or not but the web is literally unusable if I use any other browser not based on chrome because: - The search is degraded (it hides the advanced sea

Believe it or not but the web is literally unusable if I use any other browser not based on chrome because: - The search is degraded (it hides the advanced search menu in Google and most dropdowns in ff) - Most of the sites use Recaptcha or cloudflare (also an extension of recaptcha) which gives you a low bot score if you're using anything other than chrome and then begins the never ending exercise of identifying cars and traffic lights - I think web devs are also only testing for chrome nowadays and a lot of big and small sites just won't render properly with FF (the PH menu won't open on ff android for me unless I change the ua). It's not always chrome's fault though as many sites (like dictation.io) insist I use chrome because ff still won't support some web apis.

acdha 7y ago
None of those are true in my experience using Firefox or Safari. I don’t know if you are using extensions or something like Tor but it might be worth trying again in a clean install.
- superasn 7y ago
  Idk, but this has been a pet peeve of mine for a very long time now and I've posted about it before also with screenshots [1] and lot of people have agreed they have faced the same problems and we had a long discussion about it. So there is definitely truth in it. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20295333 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20295333
  - acdha 7y ago
    I’m definitely not saying that you aren’t experiencing it, only that it’s uncommon and usually seems to be triggered by using a VPN or other shared connections.
    - superasn 7y ago
      Using neither. No addons or vpn or anything. Can't really say about shared connections if that is something my ISP is doing but the point is shouldn't vpn or shared connections affect chrome browser equally? Yet this only happens when using ff. If you read the thread above a lot many people face this too, so at least this Recaptcha bs is quite true and prevalent.
magashna 7y ago
can't be that "literally unusable" since I've been using FF for over 10 years and never had any of these issues
- Xelbair 7y ago
  The only ones i come in contact with are horrible captchas on FF and god awfully slow gmail(that looks loaded but takes minutes(!) to work)
  - acdha 7y ago
    Are you using a VPN or other high-latency connection? In a clean Firefox install, Gmail takes a couple seconds to be usable — not as fast as I'd like but nowhere near a minute even on marginal WiFi.
  - majewsky 7y ago
    The ReCaptcha annoyance has gotten better for me recently. In about 50% of cases, I get the green checkmark without having to solve any puzzles.
  - magashna 7y ago
    I occasionally have captcha issues (which usually ends with me leaving the site altogether) but it's likely due to all the addons I have like uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger. Google desperately wants to know who you are and where you're going. Annoying captchas are the response to saying "none of your business"

acdha 7y ago

None of those are true in my experience using Firefox or Safari. I don’t know if you are using extensions or something like Tor but it might be worth trying again in a clean install.

superasn 7y ago
Idk, but this has been a pet peeve of mine for a very long time now and I've posted about it before also with screenshots [1] and lot of people have agreed they have faced the same problems and we had a long discussion about it. So there is definitely truth in it. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20295333 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20295333
- acdha 7y ago
  I’m definitely not saying that you aren’t experiencing it, only that it’s uncommon and usually seems to be triggered by using a VPN or other shared connections.
  - superasn 7y ago
    Using neither. No addons or vpn or anything. Can't really say about shared connections if that is something my ISP is doing but the point is shouldn't vpn or shared connections affect chrome browser equally? Yet this only happens when using ff. If you read the thread above a lot many people face this too, so at least this Recaptcha bs is quite true and prevalent.

magashna 7y ago

can't be that "literally unusable" since I've been using FF for over 10 years and never had any of these issues

Xelbair 7y ago
The only ones i come in contact with are horrible captchas on FF and god awfully slow gmail(that looks loaded but takes minutes(!) to work)
- acdha 7y ago
  Are you using a VPN or other high-latency connection? In a clean Firefox install, Gmail takes a couple seconds to be usable — not as fast as I'd like but nowhere near a minute even on marginal WiFi.
- majewsky 7y ago
  The ReCaptcha annoyance has gotten better for me recently. In about 50% of cases, I get the green checkmark without having to solve any puzzles.
- magashna 7y ago
  I occasionally have captcha issues (which usually ends with me leaving the site altogether) but it's likely due to all the addons I have like uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger. Google desperately wants to know who you are and where you're going. Annoying captchas are the response to saying "none of your business"