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There seems to be a blame everything on tech thing recently in the news (what is "tech" for even?) Why not break up other industries, like some of the giant fo

by tayo42 7y ago

There seems to be a blame everything on tech thing recently in the news (what is "tech" for even?) Why not break up other industries, like some of the giant food and household companies and the shit they're practically poisoning us with. It feels like pandering to go after "big tech" constantly. These industries are just hard to break into. Who is going to compete with Google at search at this point? We watched Microsoft throw money at and fail miserably. Social media comes and goes, Facebook the website is dieing, Facebook the company is will be around by running other social media, opinions of Facebook specifically aside why is that a bad thing? We need politicians that are younger and in touch with the world. But still, anything but Trump at this point unfortunately.

blisterpeanuts 7y ago
Trump seems rather tech-savvy, and he's apparently not interested in breaking up the tech companies, though he does bash them for perceived bias. What would a "younger and in touch with the world" politician do differently?
- tayo42 7y ago
  I would hope have a better understanding of tech. To call for these companies to be broken up seems out of touch. Though this article wasn't clear abuut the problems company size is causing.
pessimizer 7y ago
> Why not break up other industries Are you actually asking this question, or is it like when Trump says that he won't pass gun restrictions because the real problem is mental health, but also won't raise the budget for mental health? I think it's easier to make the (internet) tech case because they tend towards pure rent-seeking models rather than production or innovation. Warren isn't proposing breaking up hardware companies, car companies, or companies that make consumer appliances; "tech" is a shorthand for internet rent-seekers.
- malandrew 7y ago
  > they tend towards pure rent-seeking models rather than production or innovation. I don't know how anyone can make the case that there isn't innovation and production isn't the end all be all of a functioning market. You can't buy goods and services that you aren't aware of and even if you are aware of them, you need a way to buy them. 25 years ago I couldn't type something into a box, discover a product that satisfies a need/want related to that query, buy it and have it delivered to my home in 24-48 hours all from the comfort of my home while I sit in my underwear. Once upon a time you had to pick up a big yellow book, hunt around by category, find some businesses that may or not be related to what you're looking for if you find any business at all, make some phone calls, eventually get in your car, drive there, taking out cash from the bank along the way. The alternative was catalog companies if you knew that a company existed and had a copy of their catalog (or you had to wait for a catalog to be delivered). And even long before that the only option was to go down to the local market and buy whatever was produced locally. If it wasn't produced locally, then you had to produce it yourself or you were SOL.
- tayo42 7y ago
  Yes I am? And no it's not like that. The problems with tech aren't related to the size of the company. I don't get why we're focusing on tech here. Idk how you can say it's pure rent seeking with no innovation? The examples given were the usual social media sites and Google, Apple and Amazon.

by tayo42 7y ago

blisterpeanuts 7y ago

Trump seems rather tech-savvy, and he's apparently not interested in breaking up the tech companies, though he does bash them for perceived bias. What would a "younger and in touch with the world" politician do differently?

tayo42 7y ago
I would hope have a better understanding of tech. To call for these companies to be broken up seems out of touch. Though this article wasn't clear abuut the problems company size is causing.

pessimizer 7y ago

> Why not break up other industries Are you actually asking this question, or is it like when Trump says that he won't pass gun restrictions because the real problem is mental health, but also won't raise the budget for mental health? I think it's easier to make the (internet) tech case because they tend towards pure rent-seeking models rather than production or innovation. Warren isn't proposing breaking up hardware companies, car companies, or companies that make consumer appliances; "tech" is a shorthand for internet rent-seekers.

malandrew 7y ago
> they tend towards pure rent-seeking models rather than production or innovation. I don't know how anyone can make the case that there isn't innovation and production isn't the end all be all of a functioning market. You can't buy goods and services that you aren't aware of and even if you are aware of them, you need a way to buy them. 25 years ago I couldn't type something into a box, discover a product that satisfies a need/want related to that query, buy it and have it delivered to my home in 24-48 hours all from the comfort of my home while I sit in my underwear. Once upon a time you had to pick up a big yellow book, hunt around by category, find some businesses that may or not be related to what you're looking for if you find any business at all, make some phone calls, eventually get in your car, drive there, taking out cash from the bank along the way. The alternative was catalog companies if you knew that a company existed and had a copy of their catalog (or you had to wait for a catalog to be delivered). And even long before that the only option was to go down to the local market and buy whatever was produced locally. If it wasn't produced locally, then you had to produce it yourself or you were SOL.
tayo42 7y ago
Yes I am? And no it's not like that. The problems with tech aren't related to the size of the company. I don't get why we're focusing on tech here. Idk how you can say it's pure rent seeking with no innovation? The examples given were the usual social media sites and Google, Apple and Amazon.