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I don't especially, because my Talos II is "just" my desktop. I want a computer I can trust and that I know what it's doing from the ground up. It was already t

I don't especially, because my Talos II is "just" my desktop. I want a computer I can trust and that I know what it's doing from the ground up. It was already the best choice for that and today's announcement made the choice even better.

Koshkin 7y ago
> I know what it's doing from the ground up Do you now? There is not even a hidden embedded micro-core running a "secure operating system"?
- classichasclass 7y ago
  You can audit the firmware and build it yourself. I did it. Raptor even encourages it: https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Compiling_Firmware https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Compiling_Firmware The biggest problem remaining is whatever blobs are in devices. That's being rapidly worked on.
- nickpsecurity 7y ago
  It's worse than that: https://lobste.rs/s/noed0h/day_2_keynote_openpower_blows_doors_off#c_ikzyeu https://lobste.rs/s/noed0h/day_2_keynote_openpower_blows_doo... You can't trust any modern computer to not be subverted. So, you have to change how you use them. True secrets should be kept out of computers or rooms with technology. Go old school.
  - tempguy9999 7y ago
    > Go old school OK. How?
_delirium 7y ago
Interesting. How do you find it as a desktop? I'd read in reviews that it's incredibly loud, so more suited for datacenter than office or home use, but maybe it's not as bad as I'd gathered?
- classichasclass 7y ago
  This is a very early unit (#12) and the initial firmware was indeed deafeningly loud. However, the current firmware is whisper quiet, certainly much quieter than the Quad G5 next to it (and the G5 is throttled down), and I also have super-quiet power supplies installed. I find it perfectly liveable.
- neop1x 7y ago
  For me, the biggest problems are the long booting of HosBoot and lack of "suspend to ram"
- avhception 7y ago
  I've had a system with two quad-core CPUs running at 100% load under my desk for many days, whisper-quiet.

Koshkin 7y ago

> I know what it's doing from the ground up Do you now? There is not even a hidden embedded micro-core running a "secure operating system"?

classichasclass 7y ago
You can audit the firmware and build it yourself. I did it. Raptor even encourages it: https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Compiling_Firmware https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Compiling_Firmware The biggest problem remaining is whatever blobs are in devices. That's being rapidly worked on.
nickpsecurity 7y ago
It's worse than that: https://lobste.rs/s/noed0h/day_2_keynote_openpower_blows_doors_off#c_ikzyeu https://lobste.rs/s/noed0h/day_2_keynote_openpower_blows_doo... You can't trust any modern computer to not be subverted. So, you have to change how you use them. True secrets should be kept out of computers or rooms with technology. Go old school.
- tempguy9999 7y ago
  > Go old school OK. How?

_delirium 7y ago

Interesting. How do you find it as a desktop? I'd read in reviews that it's incredibly loud, so more suited for datacenter than office or home use, but maybe it's not as bad as I'd gathered?

classichasclass 7y ago
This is a very early unit (#12) and the initial firmware was indeed deafeningly loud. However, the current firmware is whisper quiet, certainly much quieter than the Quad G5 next to it (and the G5 is throttled down), and I also have super-quiet power supplies installed. I find it perfectly liveable.
neop1x 7y ago
For me, the biggest problems are the long booting of HosBoot and lack of "suspend to ram"
avhception 7y ago
I've had a system with two quad-core CPUs running at 100% load under my desk for many days, whisper-quiet.