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This is purposely written in a foreboding way. A lot of this stuff is standard SaaS procedure. Google does tend to make some boneheaded moves though and Transpa

This is purposely written in a foreboding way. A lot of this stuff is standard SaaS procedure. Google does tend to make some boneheaded moves though and Transparency is constant struggle for them. I personally stopped using chrome due to manifest V3. Not because of the tracking, the tracking makes my life easier. Just keep things secure, ok?

TeMPOraL 7y ago
> This is purposely written in a foreboding way. A lot of this stuff is standard SaaS procedure. Just because it's standard, doesn't mean it's moral. FSF has been speaking about immorality of these practices for decades now. Their point is essentially that as a software creator, you shouldn't do it, and as a user, you shouldn't (for both ethical and practical reasons) subject yourself to these practices.
- robertheadley 7y ago
  I just want to avoid technology becoming the boogeyman to normal people that don't necessary understand this kind of thing. Then again, I suppose the odds of a normie going to FSF is probably moderately low. They aren't wrong. I would just appreciate a bit more finesse in their wording.
  - pessimizer 7y ago
    The FSF's goal is to make technology not a boogeyman, modern tech culture has a goal of making the inside of every device opaque enough that a boogeyman could hide there.
- spookthesunset 7y ago
  Casting the vast majority of tech workers as immoral is a great way to win people over. Pragmatism wins over purity, and the FSF is far, far, far from pragmatic.
  - yarrel 7y ago
    The FSF has been very pragmatic. It hasn't capitulated, though.
- solipsism 7y ago
  The question of what is moral is subjective. I listen to what some people have to say on topics of morality, but I generally ignore those who clearly use deceptive language or tactics. That category includes both the Westborough Baptist Church and the FSF. The FSF isn't doing their cause any favors by being manipulative in this way.

TeMPOraL 7y ago

> This is purposely written in a foreboding way. A lot of this stuff is standard SaaS procedure. Just because it's standard, doesn't mean it's moral. FSF has been speaking about immorality of these practices for decades now. Their point is essentially that as a software creator, you shouldn't do it, and as a user, you shouldn't (for both ethical and practical reasons) subject yourself to these practices.

robertheadley 7y ago
I just want to avoid technology becoming the boogeyman to normal people that don't necessary understand this kind of thing. Then again, I suppose the odds of a normie going to FSF is probably moderately low. They aren't wrong. I would just appreciate a bit more finesse in their wording.
- pessimizer 7y ago
  The FSF's goal is to make technology not a boogeyman, modern tech culture has a goal of making the inside of every device opaque enough that a boogeyman could hide there.
spookthesunset 7y ago
Casting the vast majority of tech workers as immoral is a great way to win people over. Pragmatism wins over purity, and the FSF is far, far, far from pragmatic.
- yarrel 7y ago
  The FSF has been very pragmatic. It hasn't capitulated, though.
solipsism 7y ago
The question of what is moral is subjective. I listen to what some people have to say on topics of morality, but I generally ignore those who clearly use deceptive language or tactics. That category includes both the Westborough Baptist Church and the FSF. The FSF isn't doing their cause any favors by being manipulative in this way.