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Seeing more of this liberalizations lately, what major gender-rights issues do the Saudis have left to tackle?

wavefunction 7y ago
They have a few things to work on: http://www.womensmediacenter.com/news-features/saudi-arabia-executes-domestic-worker-who-killed-her-attempted-rapist http://www.womensmediacenter.com/news-features/saudi-arabia-...
ceejayoz 7y ago
Most of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_in_Saudi_Arab... Global Gender Gap Index Rank: 141st out of 149
- mieseratte 7y ago
  I'm not of the mind that Saudis are on-par with Sweden. Ultimately was hoping for something a bit more insightful than a Wikipedia article, especially when "Women were previously forbidden from" appears throughout. Though from Wikipedia, thought this was an oddly discriminatory: > women are still required to have men swear for them in a court of law.
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    As black people in the Jim Crow South discovered, "previously forbidden from" and "enjoy genuine equality" are not the same thing. The Wikipedia article simply serves as a well-sourced starting point.
  - joelx 7y ago
    Saudis are a horrifying dictatorship that murders journalists and oppresses and enslaves people. They are an enemy of human rights.
    - mieseratte 7y ago
      Cool, I asked about gender-issues specifically. Thanks for derailing.
logfromblammo 7y ago
There are a few that stem from the cultural expectation that the husband's income pays for the whole family, while the wife's income (if she has one) is for her use alone. Therefore, if the wife works outside the home, she is selfish, and not contributing to the family. This leads to discouragement or prohibition of external work and the education required to pursue it, especially higher education. Divorces tend to asymmetrically favor the husband with respect to child custody and what Anglo-American common law would usually consider joint or common property. Women's fashion may be limited by modesty laws, and certainly still restricted by social pressures. Premarital public displays of affection may provoke punishments. Adultery and rape are still handled in a manner considered improper in the US and Europe. Homosexuality is still punishable by execution, as far as I know.
- devoply 7y ago
  Also beheading people and cutting off their hands which are still done in public. Floggings is another. Also all the Saudi dissidents imprisoned by bone saw such as Raif Badawi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raif_Badawi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raif_Badawi

They have a few things to work on: http://www.womensmediacenter.com/news-features/saudi-arabia-executes-domestic-worker-who-killed-her-attempted-rapist http://www.womensmediacenter.com/news-features/saudi-arabia-...

ceejayoz 7y ago

Most of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_in_Saudi_Arab... Global Gender Gap Index Rank: 141st out of 149

mieseratte 7y ago
I'm not of the mind that Saudis are on-par with Sweden. Ultimately was hoping for something a bit more insightful than a Wikipedia article, especially when "Women were previously forbidden from" appears throughout. Though from Wikipedia, thought this was an oddly discriminatory: > women are still required to have men swear for them in a court of law.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  As black people in the Jim Crow South discovered, "previously forbidden from" and "enjoy genuine equality" are not the same thing. The Wikipedia article simply serves as a well-sourced starting point.
- joelx 7y ago
  Saudis are a horrifying dictatorship that murders journalists and oppresses and enslaves people. They are an enemy of human rights.
  - mieseratte 7y ago
    Cool, I asked about gender-issues specifically. Thanks for derailing.

logfromblammo 7y ago

There are a few that stem from the cultural expectation that the husband's income pays for the whole family, while the wife's income (if she has one) is for her use alone. Therefore, if the wife works outside the home, she is selfish, and not contributing to the family. This leads to discouragement or prohibition of external work and the education required to pursue it, especially higher education. Divorces tend to asymmetrically favor the husband with respect to child custody and what Anglo-American common law would usually consider joint or common property. Women's fashion may be limited by modesty laws, and certainly still restricted by social pressures. Premarital public displays of affection may provoke punishments. Adultery and rape are still handled in a manner considered improper in the US and Europe. Homosexuality is still punishable by execution, as far as I know.

devoply 7y ago
Also beheading people and cutting off their hands which are still done in public. Floggings is another. Also all the Saudi dissidents imprisoned by bone saw such as Raif Badawi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raif_Badawi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raif_Badawi