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>> People should not need to diet. They should spend enough calories to burn off excess food This is bad advice, it's been shown over and over again that in th

>> People should not need to diet. They should spend enough calories to burn off excess food This is bad advice, it's been shown over and over again that in the long term people don't manage to lose weight by exercising. They give up, don't exercise enough, overestimate how many calories they burnt, over-compensate by eating more and/or unhealthier ('because I earned it after taking a run'), etc. You don't have to 'diet' to lose weight, just try to eat a little less each day, and watch what you are eating. Only 100 calories less than what you need each day, and you'll steadily lose maybe ~3KG a year.

zbobet2012 7y ago
However, exercise is the largest driving factor in health _not_ weight https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/treadmill_performance_predicts_mortality https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/treadmil.... For weightloss _diet and exercise_ is the way to go: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4429709/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4429709/.
- okmokmz 7y ago
  >Objectively measured physical activity may not be the key determinant of unhealthy weight gain in children. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3044163/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3044163/ >Prospective studies, however, find little evidence of the more physically active members of a population gaining less excess weight than those who are the least physically active. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21832897?dopt=Abstract https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21832897?dopt=Abstract >TEE adjusted for weight and age or PAL did not differ significantly between developing and industrialized countries, which calls into question the role of energy expenditure in the cause of obesity at the population level. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/93/2/427/4597724 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/93/2/427/4597724
  - zbobet2012 7y ago
    > However, exercise is the largest driving factor in health _not_ weight Citing a bunch of studies about obesity changes nothing about the fact that _exercise_ is more important to health outcomes than _weight_. Another source for you: https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/1/83 https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/1/83 > There was no significant trend across BMI categories for mortality after adjustment for fitness. Being skinny isn't being healthy, being _fit_ is being healthy.
    - okmokmz 7y ago
      >Citing a bunch of studies about obesity changes nothing about the fact that _exercise_ is more important to health outcomes than _weight_. This is pretty funny. They directly address and contradict the point your trying to make. Even the source you posted contradicts what you are trying to argue. Nice try though
reroute1 7y ago
Metabolism increases can also affect you long after a workout, and building muscle instead of fat is also beneficial for the system as a whole. These cannot be recreated with just diet.
TheCoelacanth 7y ago
Is that research for level of activity in general or for "exercise"?

zbobet2012 7y ago

However, exercise is the largest driving factor in health _not_ weight https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/treadmill_performance_predicts_mortality https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/treadmil.... For weightloss _diet and exercise_ is the way to go: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4429709/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4429709/.

okmokmz 7y ago
>Objectively measured physical activity may not be the key determinant of unhealthy weight gain in children. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3044163/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3044163/ >Prospective studies, however, find little evidence of the more physically active members of a population gaining less excess weight than those who are the least physically active. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21832897?dopt=Abstract https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21832897?dopt=Abstract >TEE adjusted for weight and age or PAL did not differ significantly between developing and industrialized countries, which calls into question the role of energy expenditure in the cause of obesity at the population level. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/93/2/427/4597724 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/93/2/427/4597724
- zbobet2012 7y ago
  > However, exercise is the largest driving factor in health _not_ weight Citing a bunch of studies about obesity changes nothing about the fact that _exercise_ is more important to health outcomes than _weight_. Another source for you: https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/1/83 https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/1/83 > There was no significant trend across BMI categories for mortality after adjustment for fitness. Being skinny isn't being healthy, being _fit_ is being healthy.
  - okmokmz 7y ago
    >Citing a bunch of studies about obesity changes nothing about the fact that _exercise_ is more important to health outcomes than _weight_. This is pretty funny. They directly address and contradict the point your trying to make. Even the source you posted contradicts what you are trying to argue. Nice try though

reroute1 7y ago

Metabolism increases can also affect you long after a workout, and building muscle instead of fat is also beneficial for the system as a whole. These cannot be recreated with just diet.

TheCoelacanth 7y ago

Is that research for level of activity in general or for "exercise"?