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> I must say I don't get what unique value proposition Medium think they have that allows them to treat both publishers and readers like crap. My take is that

by yoz-y 7y ago

> I must say I don't get what unique value proposition Medium think they have that allows them to treat both publishers and readers like crap. My take is that they had a unique value proposition at the beginning: "YouTube for text: audience and authors all at the same place, with recommendations and unified comment platform". But then it became apparent that they will not magically become profitable or bought, so they started with the crap.

crtlaltdel 7y ago
last-gasp monetization
sjamaan 7y ago
It's not like Youtube is not annoying and filled with crap (ads).
- OskarS 7y ago
  It's true, YouTube ads can be annoying in the sense that all advertising is annoying. But I personally find Medium far worse.
wastedhours 7y ago
The problem is, with a lot of companies trying to be "YouTube for X", they left out the monetisation stories. The reason a lot of creators have bought into YouTube is 1) it's still expensive to host video elsewhere 2) there's constant noise around the earning potential (as misguided as it might be to listen to it). Medium doesn't have the depth of content to become a destination wholly in and of itself as they don't have a critical mass of creation. All they needed to do was allow creators to make some decent cash, get a few wild "this author is earning a $1m a year, just on Medium!!11!1!1" stories into the mainstream, and suddenly you'll have an influx. Then, just don't be a complete arse to those creators and keep the cash pumping. I don't really want more ads in the ether, but that would have been the most obvious way to juice it - have their own self-serve ad product from ad one, and the offer the options to remove down the line. Instead, we get dialogue boxes.
- yoz-y 7y ago
  I wonder if they could have started as a sort of readability/patreon style platform for text without taking any investment and build just enough audience to become profitable. I imagine that running their servers should not be massively expensive, especially if they scaled up slowly.
  - wastedhours 7y ago
    But then you look at Ev's history and realise that's probably not a direction he'd have been exploring unfortunately.

by yoz-y 7y ago

crtlaltdel 7y ago

last-gasp monetization

sjamaan 7y ago

It's not like Youtube is not annoying and filled with crap (ads).

OskarS 7y ago
It's true, YouTube ads can be annoying in the sense that all advertising is annoying. But I personally find Medium far worse.

wastedhours 7y ago

The problem is, with a lot of companies trying to be "YouTube for X", they left out the monetisation stories. The reason a lot of creators have bought into YouTube is 1) it's still expensive to host video elsewhere 2) there's constant noise around the earning potential (as misguided as it might be to listen to it). Medium doesn't have the depth of content to become a destination wholly in and of itself as they don't have a critical mass of creation. All they needed to do was allow creators to make some decent cash, get a few wild "this author is earning a $1m a year, just on Medium!!11!1!1" stories into the mainstream, and suddenly you'll have an influx. Then, just don't be a complete arse to those creators and keep the cash pumping. I don't really want more ads in the ether, but that would have been the most obvious way to juice it - have their own self-serve ad product from ad one, and the offer the options to remove down the line. Instead, we get dialogue boxes.

yoz-y 7y ago
I wonder if they could have started as a sort of readability/patreon style platform for text without taking any investment and build just enough audience to become profitable. I imagine that running their servers should not be massively expensive, especially if they scaled up slowly.
- wastedhours 7y ago
  But then you look at Ev's history and realise that's probably not a direction he'd have been exploring unfortunately.