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I don't understand this move, over 2$ month extra for any ipv4 address? Are we actually running out of addresses or is this a money grab kinda thing? Most of t

I don't understand this move, over 2$ month extra for any ipv4 address? Are we actually running out of addresses or is this a money grab kinda thing? Most of the competitors I know of offer one free ipv4, often a block of ipv6, and extra ipv4 addresses are normally only a dollar or two at most a month extra Like many others said, this can double the cost of small projects.

profmonocle 7y ago
> Are we actually running out of addresses or is this a money grab kinda thing? We "ran out" some time ago. Of course, IP addresses don't get used up, so this can be defined different ways. It's no longer possible to get brand new (i.e. never used) IP addresses from the regional registries, so the only way to get a block is to buy it from another company. Cloud companies have been buying up IPv4 space like crazy since the registries ran out. A couple years ago Amazon bought half of MIT's /8 block, and just a few weeks ago they bought a quarter of the /8 that was originally set aside for HAM radio. So we'll never exactly "run out" per se. It's like real estate. They're not making more, but you can still buy it. It just gets more expensive. (And hopefully we eventually move to IPv6 which isn't so maddeningly restricted.)
- londons_explore 7y ago
  And Google hasn't been buying up big blocks like that, so are probably running out, so are having to introduce a charge for them...
  - Havoc 7y ago
    >And Google hasn't been buying up big blocks like that, so are probably running out That seems like poor planning for a big cloud provider if true. IPV4 will unfortunately be around for a while
pdkl95 7y ago
> Are we actually running out of addresses We ran out a long time ago: IANA Unallocated Address Pool Exhaustion: 03-Feb-2011 Projected RIR Address Pool Exhaustion Dates: RIR Projected Exhaustion Date Remaining Addr in RIR Pool (/8s) APNIC: 19-Apr-2011 (actual) 0.1946 RIPE NCC: 14-Sep-2012 (actual) 0.1289 LACNIC: 10-Jun-2014 (actual) 0.0351 ARIN: 24 Sep-2015 (actual) 0.0002 AFRINIC: 08-Feb-2020 0.2940 http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html

profmonocle 7y ago

> Are we actually running out of addresses or is this a money grab kinda thing? We "ran out" some time ago. Of course, IP addresses don't get used up, so this can be defined different ways. It's no longer possible to get brand new (i.e. never used) IP addresses from the regional registries, so the only way to get a block is to buy it from another company. Cloud companies have been buying up IPv4 space like crazy since the registries ran out. A couple years ago Amazon bought half of MIT's /8 block, and just a few weeks ago they bought a quarter of the /8 that was originally set aside for HAM radio. So we'll never exactly "run out" per se. It's like real estate. They're not making more, but you can still buy it. It just gets more expensive. (And hopefully we eventually move to IPv6 which isn't so maddeningly restricted.)

londons_explore 7y ago
And Google hasn't been buying up big blocks like that, so are probably running out, so are having to introduce a charge for them...
- Havoc 7y ago
  >And Google hasn't been buying up big blocks like that, so are probably running out That seems like poor planning for a big cloud provider if true. IPV4 will unfortunately be around for a while

pdkl95 7y ago

> Are we actually running out of addresses We ran out a long time ago: IANA Unallocated Address Pool Exhaustion: 03-Feb-2011 Projected RIR Address Pool Exhaustion Dates: RIR Projected Exhaustion Date Remaining Addr in RIR Pool (/8s) APNIC: 19-Apr-2011 (actual) 0.1946 RIPE NCC: 14-Sep-2012 (actual) 0.1289 LACNIC: 10-Jun-2014 (actual) 0.0351 ARIN: 24 Sep-2015 (actual) 0.0002 AFRINIC: 08-Feb-2020 0.2940 http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html