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IIUC, the traditional tobacco industry is disallowed from marketing to minors. I don't know if those regulations apply to Juul, but if they do, producing advert

IIUC, the traditional tobacco industry is disallowed from marketing to minors. I don't know if those regulations apply to Juul, but if they do, producing advertisements targeted at underage audiences while claiming they're for adults might qualify.

rhizome 7y ago
Looking at the Joe Camel case, it doesn't appear to have hinged on "tobacco" per se: "The FTC charged that R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, the seller of Camel cigarettes, promoted an addictive and dangerous product through a campaign that was attractive to those too young to purchase cigarettes legally." https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/1997/05/joe-camel-advertising-campaign-violates-federal-law-ftc-says https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/1997/05/joe-c...
- justinclift 7y ago
  It's be interesting to see the "War on Drugs" shift to focus on (or at least include) tobacco and related products. ;)
  - rhizome 7y ago
    It has happened in at least two instances that I can think of: Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) is now advocating for a variety of policies not always oriented around drunk driving[1]. Second, the State of California's Department of Public Health is currently running both an anti-vaping campaign, and a smoking cessation campaign, without linking vaping to a reduction in tobacco smoking. In short, they have transformed from anti-tobacco to anti-nicotine. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving#Activities_and_criticisms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving#... 2. https://www.flavorshookkids.org/ https://www.flavorshookkids.org/, https://stillblowingsmoke.org/ https://stillblowingsmoke.org/, https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CCDPHP/DCDIC/CTCB/Pages/CaliforniaTobaccoControlBranch.aspx https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CCDPHP/DCDIC/CTCB/Pages/Cal...
    - justinclift 7y ago
      I was more thinking "deregister the tobacco companies and put all of their employees in prison. With life (maybe death?) sentences for the executives and senior management". Just to get it in line with the treatment of other War On Drugs substances. I mean, why should tobacco get special treatment when the other ones don't? ;)
      - rhizome 7y ago
        I've never heard of anybody suggesting tobacco nor nicotine be scheduled under the Controlled Substances Act.
        justinclift 7y ago
        Yeah, but it's kind of a shame. ;)

rhizome 7y ago

Looking at the Joe Camel case, it doesn't appear to have hinged on "tobacco" per se: "The FTC charged that R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, the seller of Camel cigarettes, promoted an addictive and dangerous product through a campaign that was attractive to those too young to purchase cigarettes legally." https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/1997/05/joe-camel-advertising-campaign-violates-federal-law-ftc-says https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/1997/05/joe-c...

justinclift 7y ago
It's be interesting to see the "War on Drugs" shift to focus on (or at least include) tobacco and related products. ;)
- rhizome 7y ago
  It has happened in at least two instances that I can think of: Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) is now advocating for a variety of policies not always oriented around drunk driving[1]. Second, the State of California's Department of Public Health is currently running both an anti-vaping campaign, and a smoking cessation campaign, without linking vaping to a reduction in tobacco smoking. In short, they have transformed from anti-tobacco to anti-nicotine. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving#Activities_and_criticisms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving#... 2. https://www.flavorshookkids.org/ https://www.flavorshookkids.org/, https://stillblowingsmoke.org/ https://stillblowingsmoke.org/, https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CCDPHP/DCDIC/CTCB/Pages/CaliforniaTobaccoControlBranch.aspx https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CCDPHP/DCDIC/CTCB/Pages/Cal...
  - justinclift 7y ago
    I was more thinking "deregister the tobacco companies and put all of their employees in prison. With life (maybe death?) sentences for the executives and senior management". Just to get it in line with the treatment of other War On Drugs substances. I mean, why should tobacco get special treatment when the other ones don't? ;)
    - rhizome 7y ago
      I've never heard of anybody suggesting tobacco nor nicotine be scheduled under the Controlled Substances Act.
      - justinclift 7y ago
        Yeah, but it's kind of a shame. ;)