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The thing that get's me about Juul is that it's basically a bunch of marketing money and visual design piled on a product that's strictly worse that the vaping
by p1necone 7y ago
The thing that get's me about Juul is that it's basically a bunch of marketing money and visual design piled on a product that's strictly worse that the vaping options that came before it.
The biggest thing vs a regular mech mod is that it has single use proprietary cartridges that you have to throw out afterwards, vs spending less money on a bottle of vape juice that will last for way longer.
- dillondoyle 7y agoI've read, on HN, that Juul also has patents on nictoine salts that hit faster and don't last as long. e.g. the crack of nicotine.
- smt88 7y agoSo it's the Keurig + K Cup of the vape world?
- dehrmann 7y agoThat's just the Gillette of the coffee world.
- rhizome 7y agoGillette is just the Levi Strauss of the personal care world.
- raihansaputra 7y agoKind of. They're pushing big here in Indonesia by partnering with bars and supermarkets/minimarkets to make it more convenient for users to purchase their cartridges. Other e-liquids are only sold through e-commerce or specific hobby shops.
- krustyburger 7y agoIsn’t there a claim that Juul popularized nicotine “salts” that are more satisfying than traditional vaping options for cigarette smokers?
- Phlarp 7y agoIt appears they popularized nicotine salts, but you can get nicotine salt ejuice for use in standard mod/tanks setups. I don't have any experience to assess if it is more satisfying or smoother but I believe Juul has used both those claims in their marketing.
- raihansaputra 7y agoFrom my experience it's not 'smoother' per se, but you can inhale as you would smoke (MtL or Mouth to Lung), while the standard mod/tanks setups tends to be inhaled as you would 'shisha' (DtL or direct to lung). It's also quicker to get the 'hit' as salt-nicotine is quicker to absorb by the body.
- sjnair96 7y agoWhile you can do Mouth-to-Lung on a Juul (mainly for vape tricks such as ghosting or french inhaling)l, I'd say it's much more common to Direct-to-Lung inhale at least among young adult nicotine fiends who are dependent on the substance.
- raihansaputra 7y agoYes, AFAIK Juul was the first to popularise it. Using salt-nics enables device makers to use lower-wattage devices for the same nicotine 'hit', and also reduces the vapor output. This results in smaller devices due to smaller battery and more convenient to use.
- burk96 7y agoAs I understand it, yes. According to my friends who vape, Juul is still way ahead of everyone in the juice department. So much better they'll spend close to $60 a week on the stuff... Pretty sure that's more expensive per volume than printer ink!
- rhizome 7y agoPretty close to what I was paying as a pack-a-day cigarette smoker. They're copying the streaming TV subscription business model!
- moftz 7y agoYou can buy third party compatible pods. It's pretty convenient compared to building coils, replacing pre-made coils, or even refilling a tank.
- kmlx 7y ago"a product that's strictly worse that the vaping options that came before it." this is false. the Juul product is a 3rd iteration of a long line of vaping innovations. Juul was far ahead of their competitors when they launched: small, practical, easy to use, great nicotine hit. they're so far ahead that most of their competitors now use the Juul model of selling a compact vape along with pre-filled pods.