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This is literally the plot to like 5% of all Star Trek TNG episodes. Is there anything they don't predict?
by coding123 7y ago
This is literally the plot to like 5% of all Star Trek TNG episodes. Is there anything they don't predict?
- cgriswald 7y agoConsidering the mynocks in The Empire Strikes Back predate STTNG by almost a decade “predict” seems like a strong word. : )
- Retric 7y agoPlenty of original Star Trek episodes with similar plots (1966–1969). Ex: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Immunity_Syndrome_(Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Immunity_Syndrome_(Star_... However, just because something is and old idea does not mean inclusion does not represent a prediction.
- benj111 7y agoI like Star wars and I like Star Trek, I would never accuse SW of something so grand as 'predicting' anything though. You have reminded me of my favourite definition for Soft Sci fi though. Soft Sci Fi: Han Solo running around around on an asteroid with only a face mask. (can't find the source right now) Edit >"Hard science-fiction” is defined as “stories in which Han Solo does not saunter around the surface of an asteroid wearing only an oxygen mask and a leather jacket” https://themorningnews.org/article/mindfuck-movies https://themorningnews.org/article/mindfuck-movies
- scardine 7y agoHave you watched "The Expanse"? I like that explosions in space does not make sound and inertia look right in this show, how would you classify it?
- benj111 7y agoI havent seen it no. I've read one or 2 convincing essays that SW is basically fantasy rather than science fiction. You have princesses getting rescued, and 'magicians', etc. When you start analysing it, that basically holds. Sci fi should be about holding up a mirror to contemporary issues, or imagine what may be. I suppose the hard/soft difference is how rigorously they think about the mechanics of that, but theres a big grey area in there. I supposes theres an element of no true Scotsman in there, but these aren't hard and fast rules. To return to my original comment, I don't think there was ever an attempt to predict, or realistically portray anything. TNG I would expect to at least check up on the state of the art was at any particular time. If data uttered something about doing the kessel run in 12 parsecs, I would expect that to be in the context of a thought out space folding drive. I'm still not saying that ST is 'hard' Sci fi, as the multitude of things that happen as you approach warp 10, or the many ways to travel back in time evidence.
- carapace 7y agoHow about the Klingon disintegrators that stop at the soles of your boots? Star Trek is "Wagon Trail" in space. Star Wars is, I think, space opera. The Expanse gives a nod to hard science, and I respect them for trying, but e.g. the gravity is always either 1 or 0 g. i'm not complaining, I think realistic sci-fi would be kind of boring. Like the first half of "2001: A Space Odyssey", it was basically Dr. Heywood taking a plane. A freaking awesome plane to space, but still. I have a "100 Sci-Fi Movies" DVD set with lots of old movies from a span of decades, and it's pretty clear that at least some sci-fi did start as attempts to do a kind of scenario planning, but there has always been "speculative fiction" depending on how you categorize things. Was Plato's Atlantis science fiction?
- NowThenGoodBad 7y agoScience fiction and scientists have been proposing alternate forms of life for a long time. I love TNG (and SW) but have to point out that their ideas in many places aren't new. Example: Silicon based lifeforms It's in the same column as carbon so we can have similar bonding structure and properties, so why not silicon-based life instead of carbon-based?