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> Manipulation implies a level of deceit and deception that persuasion does not. Actually, if we're going to get into this nitpicky level of semantics, none of
by kerkeslager 7y ago
> Manipulation implies a level of deceit and deception that persuasion does not.
Actually, if we're going to get into this nitpicky level of semantics, none of the words "cleverly, unscrupulously, artful, unfair, insidious" mean "deceit" or "deception".
I'd argue that advertising is pretty inherently unscrupulous, and if it's at all effective, it's clever, artful, and insidious. And you can argue all day long that it's not "especially to one's own advantage" or "to serve one's purpose", but the fact is that if it was really providing a service to customers and not just serving advertisers, that service would be better provided by a neutral third party (such as Consumer Reports, OutdoorGearLab, etc.).
But while we're at it, plenty of advertising is deceitful and deceptive too, so even if that's a prerequisite for being manipulative, advertising is still often manipulative.
- silvester23 7y ago> Actually, if we're going to get into this nitpicky level of semantics, none of the words "cleverly, unscrupulously, artful, unfair, insidious" mean "deceit" or "deception". "insidious" is actually a synonym of "deceitful" [0]. You could still argue that advertisement is insidious (which I would by and large disagree with), but the previous poster's point about manipulation and persuasion being different still stands. [0] https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/deceitful https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/deceitful
- kerkeslager 7y agoMeh, not really sure why I decided to get into a semantic argument anyway.