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I will be very surprised if Apple manages to grow this into a bona fide Netflix etc. competitor. Disney's Disney+ / Hulu / ESPN+ bundle is four dollars a month

I will be very surprised if Apple manages to grow this into a bona fide Netflix etc. competitor. Disney's Disney+ / Hulu / ESPN+ bundle is four dollars a month more than Apple TV+ - with just Marvel, Star Wars, and Disney classics, I'd expect it to be a winner, but there's even more than that. What does Apple hope to offer better than even smaller streaming services like Crackle (Sony) or CBS All Access? Amazon, like Apple, has plenty of money to pour into entertainment if they decide they want to. But if it's not profitable why should Apple keep spending on its own service? Netflix, though, is in the biggest trouble, I think; anecdotally people seem to think of Amazon and Hulu content as better-quality on average than Netflix. Disney is spending a massive amount of money on its upcoming original shows obviously trying to compete with Amazon or maybe even HBO. (And meanwhile who knows whether Warner has any idea what they're doing with HBO - look at their DC Universe compared with Marvel.) In the end it's an amazing time to work in the entertainment industry. And to pirate media.

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throwamay1241 7y ago
I still don't understand why services don't attempt to bundle more. All my media is pirated, which conveniently ends up in a single app. I'd probably consider a $10-15/AUD streaming service if it included all the music, movies and party-music-video playlists I need /in one app/. It'd be a pretty tactical move to bundle that all into a decent internet plan, too. But judging by the TV shows my sickchill server and automatically nabs and pushes to my plex server my tastes would require 4-5 separate services and be in the range of $40-60/month, so I guess I'll keep doing what I currently do.
- dageshi 7y ago
  I don't imagine $15 for all that is enough to keep producing content, they'll happily lose you to piracy in the hopes of keeping and retaining a larger audience who will pay.
- skinnymuch 7y ago
  Why would any company lose multiples of what you pay them when you’ll easily start pirating anyway? You’re not who they are after.
Marsymars 7y ago
> anecdotally people seem to think of Amazon and Hulu content as better-quality on average than Netflix. That doesn't match up with my anecdotal observations at all. I know many people who subscribe to and enjoy Netflix, a handful of people who watch content off Amazon because they're getting it for "free" with the Prime subscription, and zero people with Hulu.
- skinnymuch 7y ago
  You don’t know anyone watching stuff like Handmaid’s Tale or sitcoms during fall season without ads on Hulu? Hulu has close to 25M US subscribers. So your anecdote seems off too. I do agree tons watch and respect some of Netflix. HN and other parts of web seem to dislike it a lot.
  - Marsymars 7y ago
    I'm not located in the US, Hulu is not available.
skinnymuch 7y ago
Anecdotally that Netflix is worse than Prime or Hulu doesn’t ring true for me or people I know. The only places this seems true are HN and some subreddits like boxoffice

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throwamay1241 7y ago

I still don't understand why services don't attempt to bundle more. All my media is pirated, which conveniently ends up in a single app. I'd probably consider a $10-15/AUD streaming service if it included all the music, movies and party-music-video playlists I need /in one app/. It'd be a pretty tactical move to bundle that all into a decent internet plan, too. But judging by the TV shows my sickchill server and automatically nabs and pushes to my plex server my tastes would require 4-5 separate services and be in the range of $40-60/month, so I guess I'll keep doing what I currently do.

dageshi 7y ago
I don't imagine $15 for all that is enough to keep producing content, they'll happily lose you to piracy in the hopes of keeping and retaining a larger audience who will pay.
skinnymuch 7y ago
Why would any company lose multiples of what you pay them when you’ll easily start pirating anyway? You’re not who they are after.

Marsymars 7y ago

> anecdotally people seem to think of Amazon and Hulu content as better-quality on average than Netflix. That doesn't match up with my anecdotal observations at all. I know many people who subscribe to and enjoy Netflix, a handful of people who watch content off Amazon because they're getting it for "free" with the Prime subscription, and zero people with Hulu.

skinnymuch 7y ago
You don’t know anyone watching stuff like Handmaid’s Tale or sitcoms during fall season without ads on Hulu? Hulu has close to 25M US subscribers. So your anecdote seems off too. I do agree tons watch and respect some of Netflix. HN and other parts of web seem to dislike it a lot.
- Marsymars 7y ago
  I'm not located in the US, Hulu is not available.

skinnymuch 7y ago

Anecdotally that Netflix is worse than Prime or Hulu doesn’t ring true for me or people I know. The only places this seems true are HN and some subreddits like boxoffice