> But I don't really understand why there needs to be some "interpreter." More than there needing to be, it's just all we have. It's impossible for us to know

> But I don't really understand why there needs to be some "interpreter." More than there needing to be, it's just all we have. It's impossible for us to know what the universe without us is like. All of our knowledge has been gathered and interpreted by us. Maybe there is a reality that doesn't depend on us, but how could we ever know that? We cannot remove ourselves from our experiences, so how could we ever know what those experiences/reality would be like without us? How could you ever know what truth is, if there is no you to know it (or approximate it)?