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I see FB, Twitter, and YouTube accused frequently of not doing enough to take down pedophilia.

mirimir 7y ago
Lots of American culture skates very close to pedophilia. At the extreme, there's porn that's only legal because the actors are documented adults. But there are also some hugely popular actors and musicians, who leverage child-like sexuality. And then the pervasive style for girls to dress like prostitutes. And no, I'm not a prude. I just find it amusing. And, I admit, very sexy. Edit: If I didn't care about this account, I'd link examples. But I do, so I won't.
- cat199 7y ago
  > Lots of American culture lots of what porn producers are producing you mean? 'american culture' also stipulates that it is illegal to disseminate pornographic material to minors.. but this is not being enforced at all against the US pornography industry.. -> $$$
  - mirimir 7y ago
    From porn producers, yes. And on ~mainstream TV, for example Alessandra Torresani in SyFy's Caprica: https://bestofcomicbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alessandra-Torresani-sexy-2.jpg https://bestofcomicbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ales... Also lots of amateur content. And just search about preteen fashion. It's mostly about money, yes.
    - cat199 7y ago
      > lots of amateur content. this presumes that mass media doesn't have any bearing on the culture it broadcasts to, when in fact, it is a two-way street.. and also that this is a representative sample size.
      - mirimir 7y ago
        Of course it's a two-way street. But the fact remains that "sexy young woman" is a hugely popular theme in US culture. Also in many other cultures. But the US seems particularly schizophrenic about it.
        lawnchair_larry 7y ago
        Youthfulness and pedophilia are very different things. I don’t even see a hint of pedophilia in the SyFy image you posted. She looks feminine and young, but not like a child.
  - black_puppydog 7y ago
    what could be more american than selectively enforcing some law in the interest of private actors? :)
- rhizome 7y ago
  Do tell, how do prostitutes dress?
  - mirimir 7y ago
    OK, I've led a ~sheltered life, and have no personal experience with prostitutes. Or at least, women who explicitly demanded money for sex. But I have visited Amsterdam's red light district a few times, just to watch. And I've seen lots of prostitutes in movies, for whatever that's worth. So basically, prostitutes either wear as little as they can get away with. Or they wear costumes that appeal to various fetishes. The French Maid. The Schoolgirl (or Sexy Librarian) with Big Glasses. Here are some (NSFW) stock images: https://www.gettyimages.de/fotos/prostitute Also, a site that's probably OK, albeit way creepy: https://www.scarymommy.com/dress-your-daughter-as-a-whore-day/ Edit: I neglected to ask how you think prostitutes dress. Are you arguing that they dress like everyone else? And perhaps, that it's some flavor of ...ist to even discuss it? I'm aware of that perspective, but I'm too much of a materialist geek to accept it.
    - rhizome 7y ago
      I understand most sex work is not streetwalking and I assume they change into whatever when they arrive at wherever they're hired to go. I've also heard that the Amsterdam Red Light District is a costumed tourist trap.
      - mirimir 7y ago
        I appreciate that many sex workers don't dress like streetwalkers, or sex hostesses in bars, clubs, etc. I' sure that there are sex workers who dress like most people dress. Whatever the client wants. Escorts, for example. But still, there is the "streetwalker / sex hostess" style. As you see in Hooters. And it's not at all uncommon to see preteens dressed like that. I gather that it's considered "cute". Also a way for young women to thumb their noses at society. And I can't deny finding it sexy, at least for the older ones. But it's still strange, in a country that's so freaked by pedophilia.

Lots of American culture skates very close to pedophilia. At the extreme, there's porn that's only legal because the actors are documented adults. But there are also some hugely popular actors and musicians, who leverage child-like sexuality. And then the pervasive style for girls to dress like prostitutes. And no, I'm not a prude. I just find it amusing. And, I admit, very sexy. Edit: If I didn't care about this account, I'd link examples. But I do, so I won't.

cat199 7y ago
> Lots of American culture lots of what porn producers are producing you mean? 'american culture' also stipulates that it is illegal to disseminate pornographic material to minors.. but this is not being enforced at all against the US pornography industry.. -> $$$
- mirimir 7y ago
  From porn producers, yes. And on ~mainstream TV, for example Alessandra Torresani in SyFy's Caprica: https://bestofcomicbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Alessandra-Torresani-sexy-2.jpg https://bestofcomicbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ales... Also lots of amateur content. And just search about preteen fashion. It's mostly about money, yes.
  - cat199 7y ago
    > lots of amateur content. this presumes that mass media doesn't have any bearing on the culture it broadcasts to, when in fact, it is a two-way street.. and also that this is a representative sample size.
    - mirimir 7y ago
      Of course it's a two-way street. But the fact remains that "sexy young woman" is a hugely popular theme in US culture. Also in many other cultures. But the US seems particularly schizophrenic about it.
      - lawnchair_larry 7y ago
        Youthfulness and pedophilia are very different things. I don’t even see a hint of pedophilia in the SyFy image you posted. She looks feminine and young, but not like a child.
- black_puppydog 7y ago
  what could be more american than selectively enforcing some law in the interest of private actors? :)
rhizome 7y ago
Do tell, how do prostitutes dress?
- mirimir 7y ago
  OK, I've led a ~sheltered life, and have no personal experience with prostitutes. Or at least, women who explicitly demanded money for sex. But I have visited Amsterdam's red light district a few times, just to watch. And I've seen lots of prostitutes in movies, for whatever that's worth. So basically, prostitutes either wear as little as they can get away with. Or they wear costumes that appeal to various fetishes. The French Maid. The Schoolgirl (or Sexy Librarian) with Big Glasses. Here are some (NSFW) stock images: https://www.gettyimages.de/fotos/prostitute Also, a site that's probably OK, albeit way creepy: https://www.scarymommy.com/dress-your-daughter-as-a-whore-day/ Edit: I neglected to ask how you think prostitutes dress. Are you arguing that they dress like everyone else? And perhaps, that it's some flavor of ...ist to even discuss it? I'm aware of that perspective, but I'm too much of a materialist geek to accept it.
  - rhizome 7y ago
    I understand most sex work is not streetwalking and I assume they change into whatever when they arrive at wherever they're hired to go. I've also heard that the Amsterdam Red Light District is a costumed tourist trap.
    - mirimir 7y ago
      I appreciate that many sex workers don't dress like streetwalkers, or sex hostesses in bars, clubs, etc. I' sure that there are sex workers who dress like most people dress. Whatever the client wants. Escorts, for example. But still, there is the "streetwalker / sex hostess" style. As you see in Hooters. And it's not at all uncommon to see preteens dressed like that. I gather that it's considered "cute". Also a way for young women to thumb their noses at society. And I can't deny finding it sexy, at least for the older ones. But it's still strange, in a country that's so freaked by pedophilia.