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Interesting point of view, but expressed in a rather arrogant and one-sided manner. In the interests of full disclosure, what are your qualifications and backgr

Interesting point of view, but expressed in a rather arrogant and one-sided manner. In the interests of full disclosure, what are your qualifications and background? Have you ever been employed by Boeing or the FAA?

HeyYouWhoMe 7y ago
I am typed in the 737, I fly the Max. Currently on the 739ER. Look it may sound arrogant, but the truth is 300+ people are dead and it’s definitely not Boeing’s fault. They had the procedures readily available. They’ve been around since 1967. It is once again, another incident where two foreign crews failed way too many basics.
- HeyYouWhoMe 7y ago
  Being downvoted? Why? Truth hurts? Yes, I know. Being lied to by the media sucks, but that’s what happens when you allow a company who thrives off controversy to read investigation papers that are made public. They can easily trick the public because many think they can’t read the reports. It’s not too hard to understand. Media pushed Boeing into a corner to accept responsibility or face backlash on the company. If you don’t believe me, then why did the media say the pilots followed procedures, when they really didn’t. What the preliminary report, released by the investigators, says is that the crews turned the system back on, although the procedures state to not do that, literally. It says “leave cut out for remainder of flight”. Not “re engage if you want to” The crews re engaged the system to enable trim again, because the downward pitch had created such forces that were too strong for them to fight. What would have helped tremendously is pulling throttles to idle. Pulling back on the yoke, and applying speed brakes. They didn’t though, they left throttles at full, and allowed that for the entire flight. Dealt with control issues with throttles at full. Not only that, both overspeed warnings impacted for over 3 minutes. Speed was still never discussed, although they had every indication that they needed to slow down. As for the argument people bring to my attention, after I say this, is usually “well why is Boeing taking responsibility then?” Well because they already tried telling the truth, that the planes were an easy save for pilots who did not do their job. That failed horribly. So many heads, exploded. It was clear to Boeing that they needed to accept responsibility or forever be known by whatever the media makes them out to be. The media seems to love the part where “Boeing hid MCAS” But they didn’t. Although Boeing technically could hide MCAS, and it wouldn’t mean anything. Ever since the next generation, any uncommanded nose pitch down takes you to runaway stab procedure. If you had two crews, who dealt with the same issue, and one knew of MCAS, and one didn’t. They should both live, because they’ll follow the same procedure regardless. I say “should” however because it’s clear Airlines just aren’t training their pilots like they use to. MCAS produces the same failures as the stab trim, everything about it, is alike. But like I said, Boeing didn’t hide anything. They told us the change in values the system made. That’s all we need to know, so we don’t try to correct it. The only part they left out, is the name for it. Which doesn’t mean anything. The Brazilian authority has MCAS listed on paper, marked as “B” training A lot of lies spewed by the media. You can tell they’re running with this, just look how they report about nonsense, to do with Boeing. They jumped to a Boeing 737 skidding off the runway in Jacksonville, they thought they struck gold again, but they didn’t. It was weather related, and pilot error. They jumped to a story about the wheels popping on landing for a 787, lol. They run to anything that has “Boeing” because people are eating it up right now. It’s daily issues in aviation. It just happened at the right moment, when they had nothing else to spark controversy. They surely ignored the A320 that had 3 AOA failures in 2008, it was actually 2 failures. Those 2 rejected the 3rd. That plane crashed and killed everyone. Was airbus at fault? No. Because nobody makes a plane purely driven on a sensor. Pilot error because they forgot the basics. Just like they have in this case. Don’t forget, a journalist is hired based off them knowing how to start some major drama, and also because they typed the most words in a minute. They know nothing about engineering, they know nothing about aviation. And anyone who goes to them claiming they know these subjects. Can easily fool them with some nonsense and for their 15 mins of fame. Stay woke

HeyYouWhoMe 7y ago

I am typed in the 737, I fly the Max. Currently on the 739ER. Look it may sound arrogant, but the truth is 300+ people are dead and it’s definitely not Boeing’s fault. They had the procedures readily available. They’ve been around since 1967. It is once again, another incident where two foreign crews failed way too many basics.

HeyYouWhoMe 7y ago
Being downvoted? Why? Truth hurts? Yes, I know. Being lied to by the media sucks, but that’s what happens when you allow a company who thrives off controversy to read investigation papers that are made public. They can easily trick the public because many think they can’t read the reports. It’s not too hard to understand. Media pushed Boeing into a corner to accept responsibility or face backlash on the company. If you don’t believe me, then why did the media say the pilots followed procedures, when they really didn’t. What the preliminary report, released by the investigators, says is that the crews turned the system back on, although the procedures state to not do that, literally. It says “leave cut out for remainder of flight”. Not “re engage if you want to” The crews re engaged the system to enable trim again, because the downward pitch had created such forces that were too strong for them to fight. What would have helped tremendously is pulling throttles to idle. Pulling back on the yoke, and applying speed brakes. They didn’t though, they left throttles at full, and allowed that for the entire flight. Dealt with control issues with throttles at full. Not only that, both overspeed warnings impacted for over 3 minutes. Speed was still never discussed, although they had every indication that they needed to slow down. As for the argument people bring to my attention, after I say this, is usually “well why is Boeing taking responsibility then?” Well because they already tried telling the truth, that the planes were an easy save for pilots who did not do their job. That failed horribly. So many heads, exploded. It was clear to Boeing that they needed to accept responsibility or forever be known by whatever the media makes them out to be. The media seems to love the part where “Boeing hid MCAS” But they didn’t. Although Boeing technically could hide MCAS, and it wouldn’t mean anything. Ever since the next generation, any uncommanded nose pitch down takes you to runaway stab procedure. If you had two crews, who dealt with the same issue, and one knew of MCAS, and one didn’t. They should both live, because they’ll follow the same procedure regardless. I say “should” however because it’s clear Airlines just aren’t training their pilots like they use to. MCAS produces the same failures as the stab trim, everything about it, is alike. But like I said, Boeing didn’t hide anything. They told us the change in values the system made. That’s all we need to know, so we don’t try to correct it. The only part they left out, is the name for it. Which doesn’t mean anything. The Brazilian authority has MCAS listed on paper, marked as “B” training A lot of lies spewed by the media. You can tell they’re running with this, just look how they report about nonsense, to do with Boeing. They jumped to a Boeing 737 skidding off the runway in Jacksonville, they thought they struck gold again, but they didn’t. It was weather related, and pilot error. They jumped to a story about the wheels popping on landing for a 787, lol. They run to anything that has “Boeing” because people are eating it up right now. It’s daily issues in aviation. It just happened at the right moment, when they had nothing else to spark controversy. They surely ignored the A320 that had 3 AOA failures in 2008, it was actually 2 failures. Those 2 rejected the 3rd. That plane crashed and killed everyone. Was airbus at fault? No. Because nobody makes a plane purely driven on a sensor. Pilot error because they forgot the basics. Just like they have in this case. Don’t forget, a journalist is hired based off them knowing how to start some major drama, and also because they typed the most words in a minute. They know nothing about engineering, they know nothing about aviation. And anyone who goes to them claiming they know these subjects. Can easily fool them with some nonsense and for their 15 mins of fame. Stay woke