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>I really wonder what the next big changes will be Temps up 2°C, marine ecosystems collapse, and hundreds of millions of refugees?
by avip 7y ago
>I really wonder what the next big changes will be
Temps up 2°C, marine ecosystems collapse, and hundreds of millions of refugees?
- worik 7y agoOptimist
- brainpool 7y agoYah. People will just die. Refugee sort of implies a refuge. There’s not going to be such thing’s around if things go south as we fear they are likely to. It’s gonna play out far more like the Old Testament.
- rusk 7y ago> There’s not going to be such thing’s around Heretofor uninhabitable places such as ... greenland maybe?
- k_sze 7y agoIs that why Trump wants to buy it?
- pyrale 7y agoGreenland barely has soil. Take a look at the bed of a former glacier, and count the trees.
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- rusk 7y agoIt depends on where you look. Glaciers pick up material for sure, but where they melt, it is all deposited as glacial till which provides nice heavy soil for agriculture. As Greenland thaws, all this stuff will be deposited upon it. Ireland for instance, and parts of the UK have been beneficiaries of this. Also, worth considering is that it is virgin territory for exploration for minerals and other goodies. No shortage of water either. But even all that aside, it is newly available space. If you can build a city in a desert (Phoenix, Arizona lets say) you can build one on Greenland.
- pyrale 7y agoThe only reason you can build a city in a desert is the abundance of cheap energy and the ability to build what it needs elsewhere. These two conditions are not met in an hypothetic refuge. As for soil, the creation of soil in Ireland and the UK took quite a bit of time.
- rusk 7y agoYou haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. You talking out your arse.
- Integrape 7y agoSeriously. Refugees? Mass extinction, more likely.
- _jahh 7y agoyou mean the last 30 years?
- PeterStuer 7y agoWhy do you think those are mutually exclusive?
- avip 7y agoStart with the happy case or people will shut down and stop listening.
- hedora 7y agoThe projections from big oil in the early 80’s say the global economic system will collapse in about 20 years. They nailed the current temperature rise. No reason to think the rest of the extrapolated curve is wrong.
- charliemil4 7y agoSource? Curious to read
- clows 7y agohttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/sep/19/shell-and-exxons-secret-1980s-climate-change-warnings https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97... possibly https://skepticalscience.com/1982-exxon-accurate-prediction.html https://skepticalscience.com/1982-exxon-accurate-prediction.... (totally unverified - lots of links to the sources though)
- vkou 7y agoYes, but will I be able to order a dog-walker from an app?