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I feel like your argument about maven falls apart because google really did stop working on maven, while amazon didn't. In other words, execs said "here are ou
by joshuamorton 7y ago
I feel like your argument about maven falls apart because google really did stop working on maven, while amazon didn't.
In other words, execs said "here are our values", employees came back and said that maven didn't live up to those values and begrudgingly, kicking and screaming even, execs agreed, or at least capitulated.
It would certainly be better if employees didn't have to remind executives of the values they committed to, but having them has still been a net positive.
- stickfigure 7y agoYou make it sound like these value judgements are obvious. There are plenty of people on HN and even inside Google that do not find anything objectionable about building weapons. Do you think Richard Feynman was a bad person because he helped build the atom bomb?
- joshuamorton 7y agoI don't think you're taking the strongest possible interpretation of my statements. The person I responded to appears to disagree with maven. But they used googles actions as a negative thing, when in the end those actions aligned with his values.
- kirsebaer 7y agoFeynman wrote about feeling terrible guilt from working on the atomic bomb.
- freshhawk 7y agoEveryone loves a good "the worst possible example".
- alexeldeib 7y agoDidn't that contribute to the following leadership churn? Seems hard to pat them on the back for backing down when the leadership who decided to do that were shuffled out.