So a product engineer is a PM and software engineer in a single body. In an organization with actual PMs the CEO doesn’t tell this to a software engineer they t

So a product engineer is a PM and software engineer in a single body. In an organization with actual PMs the CEO doesn’t tell this to a software engineer they tell it to a PM. The PM interviews the CEO, customer support team, and engineering team (since the spec depends on whether the real time solution is 10% or 10x more expensive than the daily digest) and produces a spec. As the engineers iterate they uncover holes in the spec which the PM fills in. Sometimes the old school methods are better than whatever modern crap has the CEO making feature requests to engineering.