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Apples and oranges. Japan is one of the safest countries in the world. - Murder rate (per year per 100,000 inhabitants) Japan: 0.20 USA: 5.30 https://en.wik

Apples and oranges. Japan is one of the safest countries in the world. - Murder rate (per year per 100,000 inhabitants) Japan: 0.20 USA: 5.30 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention... - Rape rate (number of rape incidents per 100,000 citizens) Japan: 1.0 USA: 27.3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

richk449 7y ago
If Japanese kids have a one in a billion chance of being hit by a meteorite, and US kids have a ten times higher rate, does that mean the US is justified in requiring kids to wear meteorite resistant helmets at all times?
shioyama 7y ago
This is a common response, but I reject it. The over-protection in the U.S. goes way beyond actually protecting kids from violent crime. It's rooted in some kind of pathological paranoia. Even with its low crime rate, I think it could hit Japan in exactly the same way.
bildung 7y ago
This hardly matters because both of these types of crime usually happen within the family, not by the hand of strangers. [0] murder: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf (page 16) [1] rape: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violenc... Stats-wise, it would be best for the kids to stay clear of their family ;)
DanBC 7y ago
There's a lot of discussion in the Wikipedia article saying that you can't compare rates internationally. Please be a bit more careful with statistics.
- dawidw 7y ago
  That intrigued me. Why one can't compare rates internationally? I think we can and that what rates are for, aren't they?
  - DanBC 7y ago
    These are "police recorded numbers". In England police recorded numbers for crime are not seen as statistically sound. > In January 2014 the UK Statistics Authority published an assessment of ONS crime statistics. It found that statistics based on police recorded crime data, having been assessed against the Code of Practice for Official Statistics, were found not to meet the required standard for designation as National Statistics. We can't compare the numbers between Japan and the US because we don't know what definition of rape is being used in each country (and for the US that definition is different for every state). We don't know if there are cultural things that change how many people report a rape to police. We don't know if police record every report. Here's a Human Rights Watch article about problems with the Japanese justice system's approach to rape and sexual violence: https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/07/29/japans-not-so-secret-shame https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/07/29/japans-not-so-secret-sha...

richk449 7y ago

If Japanese kids have a one in a billion chance of being hit by a meteorite, and US kids have a ten times higher rate, does that mean the US is justified in requiring kids to wear meteorite resistant helmets at all times?

shioyama 7y ago

This is a common response, but I reject it. The over-protection in the U.S. goes way beyond actually protecting kids from violent crime. It's rooted in some kind of pathological paranoia. Even with its low crime rate, I think it could hit Japan in exactly the same way.

bildung 7y ago

This hardly matters because both of these types of crime usually happen within the family, not by the hand of strangers. [0] murder: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf (page 16) [1] rape: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violenc... Stats-wise, it would be best for the kids to stay clear of their family ;)

DanBC 7y ago

There's a lot of discussion in the Wikipedia article saying that you can't compare rates internationally. Please be a bit more careful with statistics.

dawidw 7y ago
That intrigued me. Why one can't compare rates internationally? I think we can and that what rates are for, aren't they?
- DanBC 7y ago
  These are "police recorded numbers". In England police recorded numbers for crime are not seen as statistically sound. > In January 2014 the UK Statistics Authority published an assessment of ONS crime statistics. It found that statistics based on police recorded crime data, having been assessed against the Code of Practice for Official Statistics, were found not to meet the required standard for designation as National Statistics. We can't compare the numbers between Japan and the US because we don't know what definition of rape is being used in each country (and for the US that definition is different for every state). We don't know if there are cultural things that change how many people report a rape to police. We don't know if police record every report. Here's a Human Rights Watch article about problems with the Japanese justice system's approach to rape and sexual violence: https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/07/29/japans-not-so-secret-shame https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/07/29/japans-not-so-secret-sha...