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Except China isn't forcing us to buy opium at gun point. Couple things that would be interesting to find out.. 1. What percentage of the company's total fenta

by roboys 7y ago

Except China isn't forcing us to buy opium at gun point. Couple things that would be interesting to find out.. 1. What percentage of the company's total fentanyl pre-cursor sales are for legitimate medical purposes? 2. What percentage of total orders are fentanyl pre-cursor orders? Hard to assess scale without this information. *The people downvoting don't realize there are legitimate uses for fentanyl or what? It's a prescribed painkiller (fyi).

rogerkirkness 7y ago
Methods change but does strategy?
tombh 7y ago
The downvoters probably aren't aware that in fact Hong Kong's entire existence is due to a British war solely over China's refusal to trade opium.
ngold 7y ago
England didn't force Chinese citizens to become drug addicts. That came from mass poverty. And the English were happy to get all that silver back for all the tea they had been buying. As for the miserable poverty England had, they were happy to have their own citizens drink themselves to death. And when the emperor said enough is enough, the british took a page out of Americas playboy with dealing with japan and trade. But went step further. And now we have the second largest economy pulling out victimhood, and Americas grand old party is using the same playbook. Get in power, play a victim, and crush hard working people under your heel.
- billyhoffman 7y ago
  I think you have your dates wrong. The Chinese, after repeated requests through diplomatic means and appealing directly to Queen Victoria, seized all the opium the foreign merchants were bringing into Canton, destroyed it, and then refused to compensate them. This lead to the British Navy interceding. This happened in 1839, 13 years before US Admiral Perry opened Japan with gunship diplomacy. Don’t get me wrong, both of these actions are abhorrent. But mid 19th century Britain needed no guidebook on how to impose its will

by roboys 7y ago

rogerkirkness 7y ago

Methods change but does strategy?

tombh 7y ago

The downvoters probably aren't aware that in fact Hong Kong's entire existence is due to a British war solely over China's refusal to trade opium.

ngold 7y ago

England didn't force Chinese citizens to become drug addicts. That came from mass poverty. And the English were happy to get all that silver back for all the tea they had been buying. As for the miserable poverty England had, they were happy to have their own citizens drink themselves to death. And when the emperor said enough is enough, the british took a page out of Americas playboy with dealing with japan and trade. But went step further. And now we have the second largest economy pulling out victimhood, and Americas grand old party is using the same playbook. Get in power, play a victim, and crush hard working people under your heel.

billyhoffman 7y ago
I think you have your dates wrong. The Chinese, after repeated requests through diplomatic means and appealing directly to Queen Victoria, seized all the opium the foreign merchants were bringing into Canton, destroyed it, and then refused to compensate them. This lead to the British Navy interceding. This happened in 1839, 13 years before US Admiral Perry opened Japan with gunship diplomacy. Don’t get me wrong, both of these actions are abhorrent. But mid 19th century Britain needed no guidebook on how to impose its will