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Volcanoes on the Moon May Have Erupted During the Dinosaur Age (2014)
- cryptoz 7y agoI have often wondered how history might have been different if the moon were covered in greenery and blue oceans. Since we can see the moon's shapes and craters with our naked eyes, I imagine that we might have seen weather features and clouds too. I wonder how human history might have gone if we could see a changing, living world up there every night.
- anticensor 7y agoThe good side, flat-eathers would not exist. The bad side, regular business missions would require travelling to moon.
- kiba 7y agoFlat earthers exist in spite of evidence.
- anticensor 7y agoWeather on the moon would make them realise it us impossible to stably orbit around a flat surface.
- neltnerb 7y agoRight, explaining stable orbits will definitely work. In any case, I think it would make everyone on Earth feel a lot less special if they can look to a place they can never go and see a mirror of themselves... I certainly would expect some manner of incorporation into religion, perhaps as an Eden if the development of religion followed a similar course. A place separate from ours that must be better and therefore the source of all our goods and ills. Thinking about what it would be like to be the first tourists to the other side...
- AmericanChopper 7y agoThe more “advanced” flat earth explanations account for (and actually depend on) general relativity. I don’t think they’d have any trouble accounting for weather on the moon.
- Mountain_Skies 7y agoWe're talking about people who think a helicopter being able to hover over a stationary point is proof the Earth is flat because if it weren't, the ground would move away from the helicopter. I'm guessing none of them have ever actually piloted a helicopter before.
- perl4ever 7y agoI have only piloted a helicopter in a simulator, and every time I tried to hover, the ground definitely moved away and then it tipped over and went splat.
- BurningFrog 7y agoI suspect they're 100% trolls.
- baddox 7y agoIt’s not much different than (and in fact tends to overlap with) Christian young-earth creationism, and I can assure you that there are creationists who are not trolls (to the highest degree of confidence one can have about another person’s beliefs).
- BurningFrog 7y agoOK, I can believe some Christian young-earth creationist to honestly be on that train.
- baddox 7y agoThe YEC community has extremely similar rhetoric to some of the flat earth “debunking,” utilizing scientific jargon and mimicking scientific instruction. See Answers in Genesis for a perfect example. I’ve seen speakers from this organization, and I’m quite convinced that they are not trolls. https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/starlight/does-distant-starlight-prove-the-universe-is-old/ https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/starlight/does-distan...
- wnscooke 7y agoWhat is it about that link that you don’t like? I was expecting over the top rhetoric and sarcastic dismissal of opposing viewpoints. But it struck me as someone writing sincerely, attempting to tackle the questions as levelheaded as they could be.
- saiya-jin 7y agoYes, this kind is much more dangerous - polite, calm and seemingly logical talk. Only that every second sentence is a lie / fabrication / wishful thinking / unscientific approach to facts. It would take too long to deconstruct the whole article, but my bullshit warning went mental after few sentences and I couldn't force myself to finish the whole thing. I can see how people only vaguely interested in astronomy would take it more seriously, it seems legit on the surface. These kind of articles are properly dangerous, not the cartoony over-the-top ones. And if the person who wrote it actually believes it, its even worse.
- flat-earthicans 7y agoFlat earthers are a fictitious invention of some misbegotten for-profit media contraption struggling to cope with election results. The ones you see on YouTube are essentially a stand-alone complex conjured by hype. To claim that there is (or ever was) a "Flat Earther Problem" is tantamount to claiming that we now also have a "4D Time Cuber" problem. Just because, once upon a time, some cook went off the deep end, his ideas are now everyone's problem? If there's a crazy cat lady in every town and city across America, that's clear proof that a covert ring of international charlatans and propagandists whipped them into a frenzy and they cast the "wrong" vote? The wrong* vote. Really. One begins to develop the impression that the legitimacy of a candidate would rest upon the candidate's party, and it's core base of party members. Knowing that a certain party has consistently produced dubious electoral choices for decades on end, it is rational to conclude that there is a media problem, just as much as there is a political problem. Not only do we have terrible political actors, but we also have a terrible media ecosystem.
- flat-earthworms 7y agoFlat earthers are a fictitious invention of some misbegotten for-profit media contraption struggling to cope with election results. The ones you see on YouTube are essentially a stand-alone complex conjured by hype. To claim that there is (or ever was) a "Flat Earther Problem" is tantamount to claiming that we now also have a "4D Time Cuber" problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube Just because, once upon a time, some cook went off the deep end, his ideas are now everyone's problem? If there's a crazy cat lady in every town and city across America, that's clear proof that a covert ring of international charlatans and propagandists whipped them into a frenzy and they cast the "wrong" vote? The wrong vote. Really. One begins to develop the impression that the legitimacy of a candidate would rest upon the candidate's party, and it's core base of party members. Knowing that a certain party has consistently produced dubious electoral choices for decades on end, it is rational to conclude that there is a media problem, just as much as there is a political problem. Not only do we have terrible political actors, but we also have a terrible media ecosystem.
- dogma1138 7y agoWould be interesting to see if this can be tied to impact events back on earth. Given the gravity of the moon a volcano can definitely blast earth with material.
- ijiiijji1 7y agoNot necessarily. There are many types of volcanoes, and shield volcanoes aren't as violent... they ooze material rather than explode like a cinder cone. That lava wouldn't have enough momentum to go very far.
- willis936 7y agoI’m no geologist, but I’d be rather surprised to hear of a volcano that spits large volumes of material out at thousands of feet per second (delta-V necessary to transition from a lunar orbit to Earth). I would think it’s more likely that if there was a correlation between a large impact on Earth and seismic activity on the moon it would be Earth’s seismic activity that had a larger influence on the moon. Again, not in the field so take this all with salt.
- BurningFrog 7y agoWith low gravity and no atmosphere, I can imagine stray rocks escaping into space. I'd be real surprised if they were of any significant size though.
- aiyodev 7y agoIsn't it more likely that volcanic activity on the moon was caused by meteor impacts? Maybe there used to be a lot of asteroids in Earth's orbit. The moon took a lot of the hits until the big one slipped by killing the dinosaurs.
- Wistar 7y agoThey had misfortunes plenty but in this one regard the dinosaurs were lucky: what a spectacular sight this must have been.