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OP, your shift changes. You no longer work 9-6. You now work 4-12. How easy is it? You now no longer live in a metropolis. You live in a town of maybe 15,000 p

by Noos 7y ago

OP, your shift changes. You no longer work 9-6. You now work 4-12. How easy is it? You now no longer live in a metropolis. You live in a town of maybe 15,000 people. The nearest Trader Joes is an hour drive away. Again, how easy it is? You now are paid $15 an hour instead of what you are making. Is it sill not a burden? I think people here need to really keep in mind how much life situations differ in the USA before they consider something to be a burden or not. A lot of people here at HN live like college students; very close to their work/study, no family, no children, and with generally small footprints in a closely clustered urban area that caters to them. Even the focus on metal work is the same. It really changes if you aren't this type of person an yes it's a burden. You simply don't have the disposable time if you have kids for one, unless your wife is stay at home.

esotericn 7y ago
Heh. If your life is a burden, then everything in it is one, indeed. About the only example there you've given that sounds challenging is having "no free time with children". Everything else? What does working 4-12 have to do with going to a farmer's market?
- Noos 7y ago
  you're not getting up at 6 am to shop there for one. If your shift is variable, you may not ever be off the weekend the market in your area is open. With any commute of length you have very few daylight hours to do business. You can't go and just make small purchases after work; if you are hungry, its convienence store food or fast food from a chain. There's a lot of little things that add up to make any task much harder. People take things like having a fixed schedule or a workplace where everyone shows up regularly for granted; surprisingly little changes can make a goal like this a lot harder to do.
spodek 7y ago
Since this response comes up every time, I'm curious if you're just poking and trying to come up with counterexamples. What I'm talking about helps such situations, not hurts, and is more accessible, not less. > I think people here need to really keep in mind how much life situations differ in the USA before they consider something to be a burden or not. Might you have missed that such situations and their variety is what this addresses and helps?
- Noos 7y ago
  It helps if you have the disposable time and income to do so, and if you live in a large enough metro to make use of it. If not, well, trader joes is an hour away in the state capitol by car, and your staples place is walmart, or worse, dollar general. I post here a lot despite not being in this places cohort because you guys really need to understand that a lot of the discussion and solutions have issues with people outside.
princekolt 7y ago
> I think people here need to really keep in mind how much life situations differ in the USA Ah yes, let me not write about, or even do anything else, ever, in my life, because some folk in the US of A are too "burdened".
- Noos 7y ago
  Don't make universal statements about how easy or better something is then. It can be a lot harder for others. It's easy for some peole to give up a car; for others its three hour commutes.

by Noos 7y ago

esotericn 7y ago

Heh. If your life is a burden, then everything in it is one, indeed. About the only example there you've given that sounds challenging is having "no free time with children". Everything else? What does working 4-12 have to do with going to a farmer's market?

Noos 7y ago
you're not getting up at 6 am to shop there for one. If your shift is variable, you may not ever be off the weekend the market in your area is open. With any commute of length you have very few daylight hours to do business. You can't go and just make small purchases after work; if you are hungry, its convienence store food or fast food from a chain. There's a lot of little things that add up to make any task much harder. People take things like having a fixed schedule or a workplace where everyone shows up regularly for granted; surprisingly little changes can make a goal like this a lot harder to do.

spodek 7y ago

Since this response comes up every time, I'm curious if you're just poking and trying to come up with counterexamples. What I'm talking about helps such situations, not hurts, and is more accessible, not less. > I think people here need to really keep in mind how much life situations differ in the USA before they consider something to be a burden or not. Might you have missed that such situations and their variety is what this addresses and helps?

Noos 7y ago
It helps if you have the disposable time and income to do so, and if you live in a large enough metro to make use of it. If not, well, trader joes is an hour away in the state capitol by car, and your staples place is walmart, or worse, dollar general. I post here a lot despite not being in this places cohort because you guys really need to understand that a lot of the discussion and solutions have issues with people outside.

princekolt 7y ago

> I think people here need to really keep in mind how much life situations differ in the USA Ah yes, let me not write about, or even do anything else, ever, in my life, because some folk in the US of A are too "burdened".

Noos 7y ago
Don't make universal statements about how easy or better something is then. It can be a lot harder for others. It's easy for some peole to give up a car; for others its three hour commutes.