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Soon it will be squid ‘n’ chips. The traditional British fish supper could be replaced by the likes of squid as the waters around the UK's shores grow warmer,

Soon it will be squid ‘n’ chips. The traditional British fish supper could be replaced by the likes of squid as the waters around the UK's shores grow warmer, say government scientists. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38265395 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38265395

dalbasal 7y ago
Takeaway fish suppers in England go back a long way. As the legend goes, fish-n-chips (sans-chips, since potatoes, still hadn't arrived) was established by Jewish migrants (around 1500) exiled from Spain. The UK was getting more nautical att, so I assume the trend dovetailed with increased commercial fishing. This new, cosmopolitan fish n chips thing would hundreds of years before it was more popular than the more traditional jellied eel n peas. I think that was the most popular takeaway supper until eel numbers started to hurt from industrial pollution. Industrial-scale cod fishing started producing as freshwater and shore fish stocks declined. I imagine the batter's job was to mask the "weird" texture and flavour. These days, picky eaters in the UK will only eat cod (or stuff dubiously labeled cod). No freshwater fish that isn't a trout is considered edible in the UK, even though Americans and Europeans eat pike, eel, perch, etc. Anyway, preferences and availability always play on each other over time. Kalamari n' chips works for me. Make mine sweet potato please.
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  > I imagine the batter's job was to mask the "weird" texture and flavour. I thought the batter was originally there as a crust in which the fish would steam in its own moisture, and some people claim it was originally discarded after cooking, until people started to eat it as well.
  - mc32 7y ago
    I recall hearing somewhere tempura was introduced into Japan by the Portuguese in the 1500s. I wonder if they had an influence on British battered foods as well?
    - phpnode 7y ago
      it's simple enough that it has probably been rediscovered independently many times throughout history.
- maxerickson 7y ago
  Perch are like the least fishy fish there is. I am surprised that people would turn their noses up.
  - deanclatworthy 7y ago
    Bones are a big issue in eating perch. Not such a problem with cod. Fish and chips is usually eaten quickly and often on the go. I wouldn’t want to mess around picking bones out.
    - maxerickson 7y ago
      Here you get perch on a Friday fish fry and there aren't really bones to worry about. The issue really is that the fillets are small. (I'm talking about Lake Michigan Perch)
    - dalbasal 7y ago
      I never understand why bones are such a deal-breaker. Fry whole. Eat slowly.
- inflatableDodo 7y ago
  >These days, picky eaters in the UK will only eat cod (or stuff dubiously labeled cod). In Scotland, fish and chips is usually haddock. England is cod. You can often find plaice and chips as well.
newsgremlin 7y ago
Personally I'm a fan of almost all types of edible fish, you'd think being on an island that people would be open to different types not just Salmon and Cod. And tuna if it's in a lunch baguette.

dalbasal 7y ago

Takeaway fish suppers in England go back a long way. As the legend goes, fish-n-chips (sans-chips, since potatoes, still hadn't arrived) was established by Jewish migrants (around 1500) exiled from Spain. The UK was getting more nautical att, so I assume the trend dovetailed with increased commercial fishing. This new, cosmopolitan fish n chips thing would hundreds of years before it was more popular than the more traditional jellied eel n peas. I think that was the most popular takeaway supper until eel numbers started to hurt from industrial pollution. Industrial-scale cod fishing started producing as freshwater and shore fish stocks declined. I imagine the batter's job was to mask the "weird" texture and flavour. These days, picky eaters in the UK will only eat cod (or stuff dubiously labeled cod). No freshwater fish that isn't a trout is considered edible in the UK, even though Americans and Europeans eat pike, eel, perch, etc. Anyway, preferences and availability always play on each other over time. Kalamari n' chips works for me. Make mine sweet potato please.

chrisseaton 7y ago
> I imagine the batter's job was to mask the "weird" texture and flavour. I thought the batter was originally there as a crust in which the fish would steam in its own moisture, and some people claim it was originally discarded after cooking, until people started to eat it as well.
- mc32 7y ago
  I recall hearing somewhere tempura was introduced into Japan by the Portuguese in the 1500s. I wonder if they had an influence on British battered foods as well?
  - phpnode 7y ago
    it's simple enough that it has probably been rediscovered independently many times throughout history.
maxerickson 7y ago
Perch are like the least fishy fish there is. I am surprised that people would turn their noses up.
- deanclatworthy 7y ago
  Bones are a big issue in eating perch. Not such a problem with cod. Fish and chips is usually eaten quickly and often on the go. I wouldn’t want to mess around picking bones out.
  - maxerickson 7y ago
    Here you get perch on a Friday fish fry and there aren't really bones to worry about. The issue really is that the fillets are small. (I'm talking about Lake Michigan Perch)
  - dalbasal 7y ago
    I never understand why bones are such a deal-breaker. Fry whole. Eat slowly.
inflatableDodo 7y ago
>These days, picky eaters in the UK will only eat cod (or stuff dubiously labeled cod). In Scotland, fish and chips is usually haddock. England is cod. You can often find plaice and chips as well.

newsgremlin 7y ago

Personally I'm a fan of almost all types of edible fish, you'd think being on an island that people would be open to different types not just Salmon and Cod. And tuna if it's in a lunch baguette.