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by doing that too much you drag down a city to rat's hole, more homeless coming, working people move out, economy slows down, less money left to help those in n

by ausjke 7y ago

by doing that too much you drag down a city to rat's hole, more homeless coming, working people move out, economy slows down, less money left to help those in need, similar to what socialism does: great on paper, horrible in practice. should we not care for those homeless? NO, should we always put them first? NO. it's a balance of arts, going in any direction a little too far will break it.

masklinn 7y ago
> should we not care for those homeless? NO, should we always put them first? NO. it's a balance of arts, going in any direction a little too far will break it. Bay Area is currently doing very little except complain about homeless folks. NYC has more homelessness per capita, but they've both built shelters and had a strong policy of sheltering homeless folks. As a result, ~95% of NYC homeless people (>63000 people) sleep in shelters, versus ~33% in Bay Area and ~25% in LA. And it's no surprise given Bay Area has lost shelter beds in the last decade. Which is compounded by the overall lack of housing. The west coast is singularly bad at it: Chicago is at 74% sheltering, Denver is at 84, DC is at 95.
- ausjke 7y ago
  can you provide source for the percentages? thanks. CA is leading the path towards socialism, i'm surprised it's lagging behind to take care of the homeless there, which should be a core action item for that ideology. Maybe they're just good at talk the talk, as always. Seattle seems no better as far as homeless is concerned. Austin is becoming a favorite destination city for homeless nowadays too, tents up everywhere in hot summer.
  - masklinn 7y ago
    > can you provide source for the percentages? thanks. https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-homeless-unsheltered-67-percent-NYC-13757259.php https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-homeless-uns...

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by doing that too much you drag down a city to rat's hole, more homeless coming, working people move out, economy slows down, less money left to help those in n

by ausjke 7y ago

masklinn 7y ago
> should we not care for those homeless? NO, should we always put them first? NO. it's a balance of arts, going in any direction a little too far will break it. Bay Area is currently doing very little except complain about homeless folks. NYC has more homelessness per capita, but they've both built shelters and had a strong policy of sheltering homeless folks. As a result, ~95% of NYC homeless people (>63000 people) sleep in shelters, versus ~33% in Bay Area and ~25% in LA. And it's no surprise given Bay Area has lost shelter beds in the last decade. Which is compounded by the overall lack of housing. The west coast is singularly bad at it: Chicago is at 74% sheltering, Denver is at 84, DC is at 95.
- ausjke 7y ago
  can you provide source for the percentages? thanks. CA is leading the path towards socialism, i'm surprised it's lagging behind to take care of the homeless there, which should be a core action item for that ideology. Maybe they're just good at talk the talk, as always. Seattle seems no better as far as homeless is concerned. Austin is becoming a favorite destination city for homeless nowadays too, tents up everywhere in hot summer.
  - masklinn 7y ago
    > can you provide source for the percentages? thanks. https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-homeless-unsheltered-67-percent-NYC-13757259.php https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-homeless-uns...